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Started by 3DBULLY, Oct 01, 2008, 14:14:44

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3DBULLY

Sorry rik bit of a numbskull today, looked at log's no mention of LCP at all, but in saying that the log is very small in size.

Rik

Can you cut and paste the contents, 3D? Later Netgear firmware did stop logging drops, so the other thing to check is the WAN uptime shown on the stats page.
Rik
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3DBULLY

#77
Here you go.....

Fri, 2008-10-17 10:34:06 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,64663 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 10:50:10 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,19356 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 10:59:54 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,52447 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:00:09 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,52470 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:05:14 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,21404 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]

Hmmm... yeah bit of p2p there lol
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:20:47 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,13717 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:32:00 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,56308 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:32:09 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,56351 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:33:54 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57173 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:34:03 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57261 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:36:12 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,28309 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:37:10 - TCP Packet - Source:82.47.45.152,3615 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:37:16 - TCP Packet - Source:79.65.72.108,56402 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:37:16 - TCP Packet - Source:79.65.72.108,56912 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:39:17 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57866 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:39:17 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57867 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:39:26 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57879 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:39:26 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,57880 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:41:37 - TCP Packet - Source:79.65.72.108,57202 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:42:27 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,58087 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:42:36 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,58102 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:48:47 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,58812 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:48:56 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,58881 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:49:08 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,58994 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:49:17 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59079 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:50:37 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,38045 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:53:03 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59436 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:53:03 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59437 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:53:12 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59450 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:54:48 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59630 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:54:57 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59659 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:58:13 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,58224 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:58:17 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,58233 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:58:20 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,58246 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:58:24 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,58259 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:59:25 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59952 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:59:25 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59953 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 11:59:34 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,59963 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:02:45 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,60223 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:02:55 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,60236 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:05:45 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,45469 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:09:16 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61204 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:09:16 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61205 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:09:25 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61214 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:09:25 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61215 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:12:03 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61352 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:12:12 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61364 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:12:23 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61369 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:12:32 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61385 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:13:06 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,64345 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:14:53 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61537 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:19:27 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61860 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:19:27 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61861 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:19:36 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,61973 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:20:33 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,41110 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:22:14 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,62636 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:22:23 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,62643 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:26:59 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,63923 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:28:43 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63016 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:28:43 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63017 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:28:51 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63026 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:28:51 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63027 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:31:58 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63184 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:32:07 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63191 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:32:11 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63195 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:32:20 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63205 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:34:04 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,63374 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:34:49 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,41110 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:39:06 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64186 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:39:06 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64187 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:39:15 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64193 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:39:15 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64194 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:41:44 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64366 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:41:53 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64374 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:47:59 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,64977 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:48:17 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,65082 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:48:26 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,65150 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:49:17 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,28318 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:51:29 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49248 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:51:30 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49249 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:53:55 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49381 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:54:04 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49391 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:58:45 - TCP Packet - Source:82.47.45.152,4954 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:58:57 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49706 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:58:57 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49707 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 12:59:55 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,53953 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:00:10 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,53970 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:01:58 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49959 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:02:04 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,49964 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:05:15 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,34974 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:08:22 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,50937 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:08:28 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,50953 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:09:00 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,50974 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:12:48 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,51179 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:12:48 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,51180 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:12:57 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,51187 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:14:54 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,51299 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:15:03 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,51306 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:19:45 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52253 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:19:54 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52252 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:19:54 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52263 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:19:55 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,18071 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:23:00 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52461 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:23:06 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52473 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:23:07 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,65055 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:29:05 - TCP Packet - Source:79.94.63.27,52842 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:34:24 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,31127 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:50:00 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,412 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:58:14 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,52557 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:58:18 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,52567 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:58:21 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,52578 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 13:58:25 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,52595 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:00:42 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,64533 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:10:00 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,26262 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:19:26 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,19605 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:38:15 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,158 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:38:31 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,61765 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:43:40 - Administrator login successful - IP:
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:47:09 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,49052 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:47:17 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,65065 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 14:59:55 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,48755 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:00:10 - TCP Packet - Source:118.171.71.109,48763 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:01:43 - TCP Packet - Source:77.97.91.228,63397 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:01:51 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,34709 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:03:52 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.2
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:17:26 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,21910 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:29:08 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.2
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:32:04 - TCP Packet - Source:142.165.54.149,50118 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:34:21 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,14495 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:47:04 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,51358 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:55:28 - TCP Packet - Source:217.224.222.193,59114 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:58:16 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,60466 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 15:58:31 - TCP Packet - Source:78.86.139.14,60499 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 16:00:37 - Administrator login successful - IP:
Fri, 2008-10-17 16:01:41 - TCP Packet - Source:212.57.230.141,51351 Destination:,54804 - [Azureus rule match]
Fri, 2008-10-17 16:02:43 - Administrator login successful - IP:


Rik

Nothing there. What the WAN uptime (and is it less than the LAN uptime)?
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3DBULLY

Right i have just adjusted my MTU to 1492 after using TGP optimiser, which has just dropped the LCP and reinitialised LCP so my WAN uptime has been reset, b4 reset it had been up for around 7hrs 30mins.

LAN and WLAN has been up for 27hrs 8min, so yes its been up for less.

Rik

Which suggests there is some instability, and that's affecting your profile. Is there any chance you could borrow an alternative router to try?
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Steve

I cannot understand with that downstream attenuation why you are not getting a full sync? I know you have a BT filtered faceplate but I wonder if you remove it and can find a "soap and rope filter" what sync you get from the test socket?

My downstream is 22db noise margin is 15 sync 8128 interleaved on a ADSLnation filtered faceplate DG834N router

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Rik

That's what's puzzling me, Steve, coupled with signs of instability.
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3DBULLY

Ok rik i shall give trying a different router ago, i have a spare linksys WAG354G V2.
I shall put that on this evening and see how that goes.

I take it I'm looking for my WAN to stay up the same amount of time as the LAN/WLAN ?

What do you suggest ?

3DBULLY

Quote from: stevethegas on Oct 17, 2008, 16:54:43
I cannot understand with that downstream attenuation why you are not getting a full sync? I know you have a BT filtered faceplate but I wonder if you remove it and can find a "soap and rope filter" what sync you get from the test socket?

My downstream is 22db noise margin is 15 sync 8128 interleaved on a ADSLnation filtered faceplate DG834N router


Good point steve i shall try that now, removing faceplate and going to the testsocket with the so called soap on a rope...lol

Rik

Essentially, you're trying to find out if the line is dropping regularly, and then we need to work out why if it is. As Steve says, it would be good to use the test socket with a soap on a rope filter, to eliminate the possibility of a faulty face plate. If the Linksys also appears unstable, then running Routerstats for 24 hours would be a good move.

http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/moreinternet/files.htm
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Steve

If I have seen any issues with the DG834N its with wireless and seems to relate to finding a channel not being used by the neighbours.As on certain channels if neighbour A turns his router on wireless dissappears

I had a WAG54GS and that used to give me a sync of 8096 with interleave on.
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3DBULLY

Steve no issues with wireless side of the router as it's on a fixed channel as AUTO channel mode is cr*p and freezes the WIFI.

Right brand new unused soap on a rope attached to bt test socket.
Router Stat's :

      ADSL Link
   Downstream
   Upstream
   Connection Speed
      6176 kbps
   832 kbps
      Line Attenuation
      12.0 db
      6.5 db
      Noise Margin
      14.9 db
      11.0 db

Slight drop in sync, due to me powering down router ? whilst i took faceplate of and attached soap on the rope.

Ideas : i have another two ADSL filters to try.

Rik

The variations in sync speed suggest there's a lot of noise being picked up somewhere, 3D. One possible culprit would be the power brick for the router, we've also seen it happen with poor power supplies in PCs and monitors. Alternatively, of course, it could be external to the property. If you have a MW, battery powered, radio, tune it away from a station, so you only have white noise, and take it walkabouts - see if the noise level increases anywhere along the route of your phone line within the building, or around your computer.
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3DBULLY

Hmmm yeah EM noise ?, my router is quite close to my HD LCD and my Logitech z5500 controler, maybe i should try and move the router to a different posistion and move the brick to a different power socket.

Oh just traced where the phone goe's from the master socket to bt's master socket and it passes right past the bl**dy FRIDGE!!!!!

Rik

If you can try the MW radio trick, that should show if the noise is a problem.
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Steve

Quote from: 3DBULLY on Oct 17, 2008, 17:38:11
Hmmm yeah EM noise ?, my router is quite close to my HD LCD and my Logitech z5500 controler, maybe i should try and move the router to a different posistion and move the brick to a different power socket.

Oh just traced where the phone goe's from the master socket to bt's master socket and it passes right past the bl**dy FRIDGE!!!!!

You mention 2 master sockets?
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Rik

I missed that, Steve, well spotted.  :thumb:
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3DBULLY

Sorry 1 master socket and the other one is where the phoneline from the pole terminates in side the house.

Rik

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Sebby

Quote from: 3DBULLY on Oct 17, 2008, 18:26:03
Sorry 1 master socket and the other one is where the phoneline from the pole terminates in side the house.

What does the one where it enters the property look like? It's strange that it doesn't go straight into the master socket.

3DBULLY

Sebby the termination box is rectangular 1.5 inch wide at the top by 2inch length has BT stamped on it.
The line exit's that box which then goes to the master socket.

Sebby

I wonder what it's for... Perhaps it's from the old days when BT came and fitted the new-style socket.

3DBULLY

I also have just done the detuned MW radio walkabout, That test shows from the BT rectangular termination box there is a plug socket right next to the phone cable which shows a high change in the tone of the white noise, next is just after the master socket where my active sub speaker sits also a massive high change in white noise, checked around the router and there doesn't seem to be any sign's of white noise tone change.

Going to move sub and route phone cable away from plug socket.

Sebby

Let us know if it makes any difference. It's amazing what can be causing noise.