Home Phone Discussion

[Rik]

Does the BT price include VAT, Alan?

[alan]

Does the BT price include VAT, Alan?

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From the BT website "All rates detailed below are inclusive of VAT" and I cannot see anything to tell me its not included but knowing BT it may be hidden.

[Rik]

Have a word with IDNet tomorrow, Alan, I'm sure they will be able to clarify it for you.

[alan]

Thanks Rik. I'm with TalkTalk at the moment so its looks on the face of it that I'll be going back to BT at least on those figures.

[Rik]

Afterthought: Perhaps it's the 12 month tie-in to BT which makes the difference.

[alan]

Yes its a 12 Month tie in but not too bothered about that. Even got an offer of cheap mobiles calls included...

[Ann]

You're not missing anything.  BT is cheaper for that deal which is why I wasn't enthusiastic to start with until I realised that actually most of our calls, which are very few anyway are made during the day and the IDNet prices for daytime are better than BT so I may as well go with the line rental only with IDNet (also with broadband of course) and pay for all calls.  But each person's use is different and you have to weigh it up.  It gets very complicated.

[alan]

Thanks Ann... It is like a minefield I must agree.... I can only get access to my last 6 bills with TT so its a bit hard to compare the last 12 months as a comparison.
Back to the drawing board....

[Rik]

It's the problem when comparing most tariffs these days, Alan. They all have subtle variations that make them better for some than others. Life was easier when we didn't have a choice.

[JohnH]

Do I read this correct.... With BT Evening and Week-end inclusive with a 12 Month contract  £10.27 x 12 = £123.24
With IDnet with the same package over 12 Months £12.55 x 12 = £150.06

Where am I going wrong.. Surely it shouldn't be that much difference.

Actually, they're not really like for like comparisons. For example, with ID Net caller display is free, whereas BT charge £1.71 a month (£20.52 p.a.).

Then, although ID Net daytime landline per minute costs are comparable, BT levy a the call 'set-up' charge for each call.
BT's mobile rates are also significantly higher.

So, overall BT are cheaper if you don't make calls during the day; if you don't call mobiles; and if you don't want to know who's calling you.

In fact, if you don't use the phone, BT are cheaper every time.

[Rik]

[alan]

Dead right... Looking at the few calls we have made over the last 6 months it would pay me to go the same way as Anne.. Mostly daytime use.
I hadn't realised just how much a daytime call was costing even for a few seconds and that's with TT.
I cannot find how much its going to cost for 0845/0870 calls... The link posted earlier is now not available..
Any directions please?
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Thanks
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[Rik]

http://www.idnet.net/solutions/home/phone/unlimited-evening.jsp

If it doesn't take you straight there, select non-geographic, Alan.

[alan]

Thanks Rik... I assume the cost will be the same with the line only package for the 0845/0870.. The link you give applies to E&W which on the 01/02/03 calls are a tad more expensive.

[Ray]

Actually, they're not really like for like comparisons. For example, with ID Net caller display is free, whereas BT charge £1.71 a month (£20.52 p.a.).

BT Caller Display is free if you sign up to the free Privacy at Home Service details here.

[alan]

Thanks Rik... I assume the cost will be the same with the line only package for the 0845/0870.. The link you give applies to E&W which on the 01/02/03 calls are a tad more expensive.

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Disregard Rik.... I've found it.

[Rik]

Thanks Rik... I assume the cost will be the same with the line only package for the 0845/0870.. The link you give applies to E&W which on the 01/02/03 calls are a tad more expensive.

Identical, Alan:

http://www.idnet.net/solutions/home/phone/lineonly.jsp

[Rik]

Too late.

[alan]

Too late.

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That's what the missus keeps saying...
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Looks like I'm another convert to Idnet phone.. Now pay yearly get it even cheaper Mmmmmmmmm.

[Rik]

And miss the VAT increase for a month or so...

[rgt247]

BT Caller Display is free if you sign up to the free Privacy at Home Service details here.

It is free only if you take your calls through BT. If you don't like me (Sky Free) they charge £5 every three months..... But you can cancel it  !!

[Rik]

IIRC, you also have to make a number of chargeable calls each month for it to remain free.

[rgt247]

IIRC, you also have to make a number of chargeable calls each month for it to remain free.

Correct. You can't now anyway BT have stopped the access number 

[Rik]

Not a lot of use then.

[alan]

Well that's buggered it for me until the end of March.. My next 3 Monthly payment will be taken by BT on the 13th Jan and Idnet need a couple of weeks to transfer.
So in effect if I transfer to ID now I'll be paying double line rental.