Early Reactions to Windows 7

somanyholes · Nov 28, 2008, 08:45:59

a nice write up as usual from scot

http://blog.scotsnewsletter.com/2008/11/17/early-reactions-to-windows-7/

Rik · Nov 28, 2008, 09:05:44

Sounds promising, let's see what they do between now and release, So.

somanyholes · Nov 28, 2008, 09:08:48

The networking side of it sounds bad. Dumbing down as per usual

Rik · Nov 28, 2008, 09:09:34

I suppose that was inevitable as more people network.

john · Nov 28, 2008, 13:13:48

QuotePushing windows around and dragging their edges is one of the most tiresome aspects of working on your computer. Microsoft's smart idea works this way: If your browser, for example, isn't maximized, you can drag the top edge of the browser window to the top edge of the screen. Not only with the top of the browser now reach the top of the screen, but Windows 7 automatically pops the bottom of the browser to the bottom edge of the screen too. Similarly, you can grab the title bar and drag the whole window to the top edge of the screen and Windows 7 automatically maximizes the application.

I don't think this is a good idea as I often want to re-size a window by stretching it to the top of the screen but I don't necessarily want the bottom of the window to be automatically stretched so that goes to the bottom of the screen too. If I want to maximise the screen then it's easer to either click on the appropriate button in the top right hand corner of the window or easier still, to double click the title bar.

The main problem I have with any computer, particularly with GUI interfaces, is when it wrongly assumes to know what I want to do and I find it annoying to have to undo whatever it does to enable me to do what I wanted.

Sebby · Nov 28, 2008, 19:12:26

Thanks, very useful.

Ted · Nov 28, 2008, 19:37:39

What's windows?

Sebby · Nov 28, 2008, 21:23:26

An OS that works straight out of the box.

Ted · Nov 28, 2008, 21:43:31

Quote from: Sebby on Nov 28, 2008, 21:23:26
An OS that works straight out of the box.

Now that, is a blatant breech of the TDA, i cite in my defence "VISTA".

Sits back and waits for, Incoming

cavillas · Nov 28, 2008, 22:10:30

My Vista worked flawlessly straight away and continues to do so, it has had no Blue screens or any other problems at all and has been up and running for over 3 months since I got it on my new?old machine. It runs faster and more reliably than xp ever did and very few apps refuse to run.

I like Vista.

Ted · Nov 28, 2008, 22:27:39

Quote from: cavillas on Nov 28, 2008, 22:10:30
My Vista worked flawlessly straight away and continues to do so, it has had no Blue screens or any other problems at all and has been up and running for over 3 months since I got it on my new?old machine. It runs faster and more reliably than xp ever did and very few apps refuse to run.

I like Vista.

which apps refuse to run? Do they run in XP?
Have you ever tried to connect it to a local network?

Sebby · Nov 28, 2008, 23:31:48

Quote from: Ted on Nov 28, 2008, 21:43:31
Now that, is a blatant breech of the TDA, i cite in my defence "VISTA".

Sits back and waits for, Incoming

Nothing incoming, I happen to agree with you there.

john · Nov 28, 2008, 23:40:28

What do you expect, In's in Spain

cavillas · Nov 29, 2008, 09:35:10

Quote from: Ted on Nov 28, 2008, 22:27:39
which apps refuse to run? Do they run in XP?
Have you ever tried to connect it to a local network?

Illustrator 10 and adobe 5 don't run but I stopped using them with xp anyway, just curous at the time whether they would have run. I am connected to my own local network, it connected very quickly and easily. I have 4 computers on the network, 2 wireless and 2 wired they can all see each other and interact with each other ok.

As I said I have not come across any problems with Vista. It is best to have 2GB memory though, I am running Vista Basic which is fine as I am not concerned about the extras that come with Ultimate editions. I have a free fax app that works ok and as far as Video prduction, If I wanted to I can always get another app for that.

When my son gets his MSDN Enterprise subscription then I will try Ultimate to see the difference. I also only use the built in graphics card which works fine and I don't need Aero anyway (what's the point of it).

Glenn · Nov 29, 2008, 10:00:21

Quote from: Ted on Nov 28, 2008, 22:27:39
which apps refuse to run? Do they run in XP?
Have you ever tried to connect it to a local network?

Like Alf, I have no issues with Vista, all the apps I use work fine with it. I have Vista connected without any issues via a local network to 3 other XP based PC/laptops + a WHS server.

JB · Nov 29, 2008, 12:12:14

Can I just ask the Vista buffs a question?

I am shortly to upgrade my computer. I'll use an Intel E8400 CPU and new Gigabyte motherboard with 4GB of RAM. The machine will certainly be fast enough to run Vista.

My question is, what advantages would I gain at this time in making the change from my faithful Windows XP to Vista? I'm not intending to replace any other hardware in the near future. I'm inclined to sit with XP for a bit longer, at least until Windows 7 is sorted. However, I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Ta.

Rik · Nov 29, 2008, 12:14:00

As an XPist

, I'd stay with it myself, JB.

JB · Nov 29, 2008, 12:15:40

Crikey Rik, I thought you were posting about your drinking habits for a minute then !

Rik · Nov 29, 2008, 12:18:42

I like to leave room for your imagination to manoeuvre, JB.

cavillas · Nov 29, 2008, 12:59:32

Quote from: 6jb on Nov 29, 2008, 12:12:14
My question is, what advantages would I gain at this time in making the change from my faithful Windows XP to Vista? Ta.

Faster more reliable and steadier OS. A few improvements to internet connection, better personal folder organization,a lovely handy sidebar, and a nice photo organizer. There are a few other things that I find useful but this is only with Vista Basic, with the Ultmate editions you get more add ons and extras. I also like the updated Patience game. Many people dislike the UAC when you want to install an application but I find it quite easy to get used to and adds another level of safty.

It really is just a try it and see scenario, I like it personally but I would not run around advising others to change if they like what they have already.

One thing of importance though is to Install SP1 as soon as possible, this helps an awful lot with the Vista experience.

It takes a while to learn your way round Vista but it's amazing what there is and how versatile it can be.

Your best bet is to make an image of your present system and install Vista to try it out or you could use MS virtual computer software (which is free from MS)

vitriol · Nov 29, 2008, 13:27:34

My Vista laptop has been running great I must say, this is from someone who is an ardent XP fan. I wouldn't say that it is faster or more stable than XP, in my experience XP was bullet proof anyway. I would agree however with better folder integration.

Wireless connectivity again is not an issue, very easy to setup, but then again it was with XP.

Overall I'd say that I've been quite happy with the way Vista has performed so far.

If you're happy with XP then stick with it, Windows 7 won't be too far away.

Simon · Nov 29, 2008, 13:32:06

My sentiments precisely, Vit.

JB · Nov 29, 2008, 15:24:32

Thanks all, for the comments. Thanks Alf, a very comprehensive guide.

Sebby · Nov 29, 2008, 17:24:37

When I built my new computer, I initially felt that I had to put Vista on as it was the latest and greatest, but went back to XP after about 6 months. As someone else mentioned, if you're happy with XP, I'd stick with it!

Glenn · Nov 29, 2008, 18:08:02

The only reason I have Vista on one PC at home is because I will need to support it at work, once everyone is migrated from XP.

Sebby · Nov 30, 2008, 00:00:48

I can't imagine we'll ever get it at my work.

Rik · Nov 30, 2008, 10:48:18

And Windows 7?

Sebby · Nov 30, 2008, 11:49:46

Who knows?

Noreen · Nov 30, 2008, 18:33:29

This might be interesting viewing for some. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/

Rik · Nov 30, 2008, 18:35:03

Could be useful early training, Noreen.

Glenn · Nov 30, 2008, 19:21:15

Does it mean I'm stuck with Vista, my bungalow only has 6 windows?

Sebby · Nov 30, 2008, 21:40:00

Steve · Nov 30, 2008, 22:09:57

I see there are a few copies on P2P, I presume you can install them for evaluation purposes.

Sebby · Dec 01, 2008, 00:02:25

I'm not sure I'd want to at such an early stage.

john · Dec 01, 2008, 13:16:21

One thing I would like to see in the next version of windows is for it to hold in a buffer a substantial amout of what I've recently typed. This is beacuse I just entered a lengthy reply to another post and must have mis-typed which caused both the history pane to open and also deleted everything I'd typed

Rik · Dec 01, 2008, 14:16:01

Could you not hit back on the browser, John?

Sebby · Dec 01, 2008, 19:16:15

That doesn't always work though, Rik. I think it depends on the browser, and perhaps other variables. I've been there!

john · Dec 01, 2008, 19:44:30

Quote from: Rik on Dec 01, 2008, 14:16:01
Could you not hit back on the browser, John?

Tried that first Rik but it didn't work. Sometimes I draft a post in a text editor first then copy it into the browser, I'll have to start getting into the habit of doing so each time.