Intel Processors

[MoHux]

Nerval's got the best idea for keeping it cool, he keeps 'is 'puter in the freezer!! 

...................... There again, for what I do, I suppose the processor from my fridge/freezer would do it too. 

[Nerval]

Or I could keep me fish fingers in the puter   

[AvengerUK]

Core 2 duos run a lot cooler 

Also forcing AMD to drop the X2 prices even further...how could you sell something for the same price as something substantially better? You cant making them lose a lot of the market these last couple of months. AMD need to make something beasty again pretty quick or they'll be relying on the cpu/gpu combination (amd/at merger) a lot sooner than expected!

The price tag of a AMD is very tempting though, its not as if there badly behind - as with most of these things, the intel lead is only slight. Something you'd hardly notice  / never notice!

[Lance]

From the reviews i've read the core 2 is miles better than any current AMD offering. So much so that in pc pro, one of the group tests they have done this month only one system submitted had a AMD processor (and from the top of my head this was a £1249 pc before vat) and even the £699 computers (again, before vat), with only the cheap core 2s, beat it performance wise.

It depends what you do as to whether or not you will really notice the difference. If you are into video editing (high processor usage) then you will certainly see the difference. However, if you are just a casual internet and office user you probably wouldn't notice the difference very much at all.

[mrapoc]

Lol my mate has a e6600 at 4.4ghz per core...tell me that isnt sexual 

BTW sexual is the "new" "hip" word to describe something really cool 

[AvengerUK]

Well the differences, are very very small. Sure the core 2 duo will be faster, but not by much - not really enough to justify paying the extra anyway!

[Inactive]

BTW sexual is the "new" "hip" word to describe something really cool 

Not another " really cool " word that has no relationship to it's true meaning, I get so confused with " Sexy " cars etc.


I mean, has anyone witnessed a Mondeo having it off with Bentley?.. 

[MoHux]

............ BTW sexual is the "new" "hip" word to describe something really cool 

I know my memory isn't what it was  ................ but I don't remember ever being 'cool'  , hot and sticky more like!!   

[Lance]

Well the differences, are very very small. Sure the core 2 duo will be faster, but not by much - not really enough to justify paying the extra anyway!

Like I said, it depends on what you do as to whether or not its worth paying the extra. If you are user regularly performing processor intensive tasks such as video encoding or manipulating massive amounts of data in excel then you will certainly notice the difference.

This graph Shows that the Intel E6600 (mid range core 2 duo) performs around the same as the best AMD processor (at the time of the review). The difference being that today the AMD FX-62 costs £514 on ebuyer and the E6600 today costs £200.

Obviously, different reviews use different tests and these different tests may stress one aspect of the processor more than another but ultimately they are all coming out with the same outcomes - the core 2 duo is significantly faster! I know which i would buy!

Lance

ps Before anyone calls me a 'intel fanboy' i'll point out my machine at home for the past three and a half years has a AMD athlon xp1800 processor at heart!

[Nerval]

Lance, you're an intel fanboy   

damn, I forgot to read your PS 

[AvengerUK]

Well, benchmarks often show differences out of proportion. I know, that if i was going to encode something, or play a game, or anything that the CPU effects greatly, id have to look hard to see a difference.

[Lance]

Lance, you're an intel fanboy   

damn, I forgot to read your PS 

Well, benchmarks often show differences out of proportion. I know, that if i was going to encode something, or play a game, or anything that the CPU effects greatly, id have to look hard to see a difference.

Although looking only at individual benchmarks may give a incorrect picture, there is a common theme coming from them which is that the core 2 duos are significantly faster when it comes to the processor intensive tasks!!!

[Nerval]

I wonder which of Intel and AMD takes the reviewers and benchmarkers on better holidays?

Oh no, that was cynical; my life just got shorter   

[AvengerUK]

Well, significantly better in benchmarks, not so significant in real life use...

**anyone else think im fighting a loosing battle, along with digging, well, i was going to say hole...i think its actually called a pit!**

[Nerval]

**anyone else think im fighting a losing battle?

Well I can't remember which side you were on.  AMD are better though 

[AvengerUK]

AMD are better though 

Horrah!   

[Lance]

Well, significantly better in benchmarks, not so significant in real life use...

It depends what you do in real life!!!!!!!!!! If you do something for your job which is processor intensive then you will notice the difference.

However, as you say, you wouldn't notice the difference in real life if all you did was browse the internet and write a few word documents.

So there, I think we have come to a nice compromise!  

[AvengerUK]

Ok, let me put it this way.

Gaming - Intel Core 2's are cirtainally the "BEST" - but would you notice a 5fps difference between a core 2 and a amd x2? Nope

[Lance]

in three years time you might 

But i agree, right now you wouldn't.

[Nerval]

Glad that's settled. 

[Glenn]

Ok, let me put it this way.

Gaming - Intel Core 2's are cirtainally the "BEST" - but would you notice a 5fps difference between a core 2 and a amd x2? Nope

That would depend on the current frame rate, in one of the best online games every released, Grand Prix Legends (9 years old and still in regular use by many), the difference is noticeable between the upper limit of 30fps and 25fps. That said all modern CPU's should be able to max GPL with all of it updates installed.

[Nerval]

And I thought it was all settled too!!

Isn't 30fps about the limit above which the human eye can't tell the difference - hence TV, movies etc work at that frame rate or something similar.

So it it was really bad at say 20fps, you'd see the diff between that and 25, but between 30 and 35 you wouldn't.  Unless you were a cat or an eagle.

[Odos]

Ya Know Nerval I agree with you entirely, movies run at just over 23fps, PAL video at 25fps and NTSC video at just over 29fps, yet it is generally accepted that PAL is a better video format than NTSC.

As far as which processor is better, well this discussion / argument has amused me for quite a number of years. I used to frequent a number of the overclocking boards and each of the two manufacturers have their own dedicated followers who perform various tests and benchmarks ( which highlight their own processors strengths ) to prove that "their" processor brand is the best.

It's an impossible thing state, much like saying one car is better than another. It all comes down to what you want and are happy with.

[Lance]

Ya Know Nerval I agree with you entirely, movies run at just over 23fps, PAL video at 25fps and NTSC video at just over 29fps, yet it is generally accepted that PAL is a better video format than NTSC.

It generally thought that 30fps is the acceptable rate for gaming. Is PAL not better because it has afew extra horizontal lines and therefore a little more detail?

It's an impossible thing state, much like saying one car is better than another. It all comes down to what you want and are happy with.

That's that settled again!!!!

[mrapoc]

I prefer 60fps and no less 

At this point in time, the core 2 duos have the best performance for their prices - but the only place you will recognise this is during really heavy gaming (oblivion flat out etc.) and other intensive tasks, most of which i do. These babies really shine when you overclock them  Mate of mine is at 4.4ghz per core on a e6600...now tell me that is not sweet sweet pwnage?