Simple question Hub

David · Jan 23, 2009, 12:41:10

I have been a little confused with the issue of a Hub,I was under the impresion that the router did this,but as I look more into this am I correct in thinking if I want to create a home network....sharing printer etc....will I need a hub.looking at the latest diagram (picked up today) I will....am I corrrect in this line of thought.

It wouldbe a hardwired as I prefer this.....might just leave one laptop wireless though but am I thinking right here ?

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 12:47:14

Whether you need an additional hub/switch would depend on how many devices you want to connect, David. A conventional router is a combined modem and hub. If you need more than four ethernet connections, you would have to connect a switch to the router, and allow the switch to do all the LAN work, eg DHCP. Depending on your needs to network the laptop, ie does it only need a 'net connection or does it need to speak to other machines on your LAN, the process is fairly simple.

Steve · Jan 23, 2009, 12:55:04

In addition if you want to network a USB printer(as most are these days) and not attach it to live computer you'll need a hub with a USB port

David · Jan 23, 2009, 12:55:33

The network its self would benefit by being online for lessons etc. there will be 3 machines,and a printer,so if you could envisage a pc in each room 3.at some time in the day they would be used for eductional purposes so the need to share both data and pictures would be good.

Other times to share the usual music from one pc to the other.Only one needs to be connected online so to speak. if thats clear

Ray · Jan 23, 2009, 12:57:03

I use one of these on my network, David, the router connects to this together with all my PCs. With this particular model your network can operate up to Gigabit speed depending on the speed of your PCs network card.

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 12:59:08

As most recent mobos include gigabit ethernet, there's a big advantage to be gained, of course.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:09:05

This looks just the thing Im looking for,the diagram is spot on,so this would be an addition to my existing router and I assume that you can switch it somehow to enable the network ?
Its OK Im just trying to make sense of what Im looking at.

So if I buy this hub no issues with router 2 wire 2700 ?

Steve · Jan 23, 2009, 13:14:13

Generally with the hub/switch everything is automatic ,plug your cables in power it up and off you go.You may need to plug the cable from the 2700HGv into a specific port i.e no 1 otherwise no other issues I can think of.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:17:00

Thanks Steve and all.now it makes a little more sense....(hub shopping this weekend)

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:29:25

QuoteI use one of these on my network, David, the router connects to this together with all my PCs. With this particular model your network can operate up to Gigabit speed depending on the speed of your PCs network card.

Quotehttp://www.dabs.com/ProductList.aspx?SearchTerms=Netgear%20GS605%20&SearchMode=All&SearchKey=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1

Im amazed at the price I thought they would be mega money.

Amazon have this for £27.70 Im amazed

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:38:48

Just read the reviews,its post free on the super saver not one bad review.job done I think

Steve · Jan 23, 2009, 13:42:18

And you get some nice flashing lights when its all working

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:43:22

How did you know I like flashing lights

Ray · Jan 23, 2009, 13:55:31

Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 23, 2009, 13:38:48
Just read the reviews,its post free on the super saver not one bad review.job done I think

Yes it's a good piece of kit, David, I've had mine for over 12 months with no problems, you'll be wanting Cat 5 or 6 cable and wall outlets next then.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 13:57:07

Yes......................google ?

Ray · Jan 23, 2009, 14:09:41

Here's a start for you, David, cable

and Faceplates and Jacks

David · Jan 23, 2009, 14:15:00

Thanks Ray appreciated....Hub ordered,just working out the rest and will order,although I live quite close to Screwfix

Wheres my toolbox

Ray · Jan 23, 2009, 14:21:10

Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 23, 2009, 14:15:00
Thanks Ray appreciated....Hub ordered,just working out the rest and will order,although I live quite close to Screwfix

Wheres my toolbox

hope all goes well when you start.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 14:35:37

Roll on Wednesday.Im stripping the rooms for redec so its a great time for this Ray

somanyholes · Jan 23, 2009, 14:48:34

always use switches if possible hubs are cr**

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 15:08:26

Especially Royal Mail ones.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 17:48:35

Burns ?

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 17:52:27

Indeed - 250 on Sunday.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 17:57:52

He has a look of Byron ,or am I mixing up my poets now ?

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 18:02:23

No, it's 18th C man - they all look a bit like that.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 18:24:08

Looks like Russell Brand after a shave and a bath

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 18:41:06

That would make a nice change.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 18:44:20

No Burns was both gifted and humble,from what Im reading

Rik · Jan 23, 2009, 18:50:02

He was. Not to mention randy, of course.

David · Jan 23, 2009, 18:57:02

Well at least he had a partner RB seems to have perfected this as a solo

Noreen · Jan 23, 2009, 19:04:54

Rik, you might be interested in this when it's available. http://www.naxosaudiobooks.com/PAGES/196812.htm

David · Jan 23, 2009, 19:08:16

Well Im tempted Noreen

Rik · Jan 24, 2009, 08:31:03

I will be, Noreen, thanks.

pup · Jan 26, 2009, 22:30:09

resurrecting the original subject of this thread

could I (how) connect two laptops wirelessly, a usb printer and an external usb hard drive. with no "main pc" I have a speedtouch 585 router.

Steve · Jan 26, 2009, 22:43:24

Belkin do a network usb hub see here no experience of it though

Sebby · Jan 26, 2009, 23:54:11

Quote from: pup on Jan 26, 2009, 22:30:09
resurrecting the original subject of this thread could I (how) connect two laptops wirelessly, a usb printer and an external usb hard drive. with no "main pc" I have a speedtouch 585 router.

You need a print server, or a new router that has USB ports for printer/hard drive.

Lance · Jan 27, 2009, 13:35:04

I think you're coming at this from the wrong way. He clearly needs a NAS box and a new printer with built in networking!

Sebby · Jan 27, 2009, 14:13:15

That's another option.

Steve · Jan 27, 2009, 16:10:47

Or NAS box with USB printer port

pup · Jan 27, 2009, 22:42:38

Quote from: Lance on Jan 27, 2009, 13:35:04
I think you're coming at this from the wrong way. He clearly needs a NAS box and a new printer with built in networking!

Im not made of money Lance

What is a NAS box? (dare I ask?)

Quote from: Sebby on Jan 26, 2009, 23:54:11
new router that has USB ports for printer/hard drive.

any recommendations?

Steve · Jan 27, 2009, 22:48:37

Well here's an example of a NAS with a USB port to attach a printer to.

Sebby · Jan 27, 2009, 23:21:22

Quote from: pup on Jan 27, 2009, 22:42:38
any recommendations?

I don't know of any specific models off hand.

Lance · Jan 27, 2009, 23:52:56

Nas stands for network attached storage. Basically its an external hard drive, a hard drives, with a wired network connection. Many of the boxes support various forms of raid.

David · Jan 31, 2009, 11:45:23

Well it arrived..........hope the speed it works at is faster than the time it took to arrive

might get the router to match

Rik · Jan 31, 2009, 11:48:21

You did remember the extra cable you'll need, didn't you?

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:08:39

Yes

Rik · Jan 31, 2009, 12:11:02

Phew.

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:15:12

Dont know how to do it but got everything.....................have to order a faceplate for the upstairs but thats cosmetic and Im in no hurry for once

Rik · Jan 31, 2009, 12:17:22

Plug A into B, plug the computers into A, job done.

Glenn · Jan 31, 2009, 12:21:48

What's A and what's B?

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:22:27

God,why do you have to confuse the issue Rik.....I hate it when people use jargon

And you didnt mention the nice lighty up bits

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:32

QuoteWhat's A and what's B?

Have you been at Dens medicine Glenn

Glenn · Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:42

Computer > hub > Router

Glenn · Jan 31, 2009, 12:25:21

Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 31, 2009, 12:24:32
Have you been at Dens medicine Glenn

Nah I've got my own, I can fly weeeeeeeeeeeee

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:27:40

QuoteComputer > hub > Router

Damn I knew I woud forget something,where will I get some of these Glenn .. >>>>>>>

Rik · Jan 31, 2009, 12:30:40

I'm letting David decide.

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:36:38

QuoteI'm letting David decide.

Rely on me I wont let decide down

Glenn · Jan 31, 2009, 12:40:24

It looks like you have more >'s than I have already

David · Jan 31, 2009, 12:42:54

Over ordered again still you can never have enough of these I think,and always look after your >>> and they will look after you

Steve · Jan 31, 2009, 12:57:39

Its a switch not a hub isn't?

David · Jan 31, 2009, 13:02:17

I'm worried if it will be good though,it is unmanageable

Ray · Jan 31, 2009, 13:17:15

Quote from: badpianoplayer on Jan 31, 2009, 13:02:17
I'm worried if it will be good though,it is unmanageable

If you've got the Netgear one it will be fine, it doesn't need to be manageable for your use and like Steve said it's a switch.

David · Jan 31, 2009, 13:18:59

I have the same one as you Ray

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Ray · Jan 31, 2009, 13:44:57

Looks fine, David.

Sebby · Jan 31, 2009, 14:38:39

Nice, David.