New cable

[Rik]

Indeed, the scart was called a Euroconnector in it's early days, it is still a flawed design by any name.

Or a Peritel in France.

I've not seen an issue with the gold-plated connectors. You haven't been brushing nitric acid on yours have you?

[Rik]

Any research metallurgists out there?   

I would be interesting to hear from them if there were. I thought gold was meant to be inert?

[Nerval]

Well, here's an update on new RJ11 cables!!

Got one from broadbandbuyer like Bill's, double sheathed, extra twisted by virgins underwater, gold plated, Belkin High Speed,  guaranteed to be the fastest thing on earth second only to Sweep chasing a bird.
It came this morning - wonderful service.  Looks good, many times thicker than the puny thing I was replacing.

Connected and resynched at 5920, exactly the same as before.  All stats identical.

Hmm, I thought, at least it's no worse.  I wonder if I reboot again I can get it to 6240 and a BRAS rate of 5500.

You can guess the rest..........................

Eight reboots later and I'm at 5504 with a BRAS of 4500 instead of the 5000 I've had since the power went off nearly a fortnight ago.


So my considered opinion of high speed replacement cables at the moment is not repeatable. 

[Rik]

Whatever you do, don't re-boot anymore - 10 in an hour with kick the DLM into action.

[Nerval]

Thank you for those few kind words.
The eight was a figure of speech - I wasn't counting and have done a couple more since.  So it may be less or more than ten. 

I'm calling it a day synching at 5472 and will turn the bugger off tonight and try again tomorrow.

ps Just done a BT Test and don't seem to have done any damage:

IP profile for your line is - 5000 kbps
    DSL connection rate: 448 kbps(UP-STREAM)  5472 kbps(DOWN-STREAM)
    Actual IP throughput achieved during the test was - 4476 kbps

Can't understand why it's left the BRAS rate at 5000, but then there is so much I don't understand..........

[old Bill]

Just shows you what a lousy cable came with my router.  I did not get a large increase in sync. It went up from 5630 to 5696 just enough to take me in to a new profile. Think my line errors have shot up now. What does everyone think ? Thats in just under a day.

Uptime:   0 days, 23:48:21

Modulation:   G.992.1 Annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:   832 / 5,696

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]:   123.37 / 1.12

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:   11.5 / 19.5

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:   29.0 / 48.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:   8.0 / 6.5

Vendor ID (Local/Remote):   TMMB / 

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):   2 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote):   0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote):   0

Error Seconds (Local/Remote):   334 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down):   726 / 47,323,439

CRC Errors (Up/Down):   248 / 557

HEC Errors (Up/Down):   220 / 440

[Rik]

Can't understand why it's left the BRAS rate at 5000, but then there is so much I don't understand..........

Could be the blip logic is shielding you from a profile change for the moment, though it should definitely drop to 4500 on that sync speed.

An overnight off sounds like a good idea. Fwiw, I've got a Belkin lead myself, and it does seem to give me a small increase in noise margin, but this seems to be one of those YMMV issues.

[Nerval]

Bill
Yours looks very similar to my own, except your upstream is worse.
You get loads of FEC errors with interleaving on - that's what it does.

Just for interest, I've been perfectly happy with mine at a BRAS rate of 5Mb, and in just under 12 days of non-stop connection, I got:

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:   832 / 5,920
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:   12.0 / 19.5

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:   27.0 / 50.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:   21.0 / 6.0


Error Seconds (Local/Remote):   31,304 /0

FEC Errors (Up/Down):   ? / 2,879,950,749   (i.e. 3 billion)

CRC Errors (Up/Down):   20 / 335,642

HEC Errors (Up/Down):   12/ 298,788

[Inactive]

Or a Peritel in France.

I've not seen an issue with the gold-plated connectors. You haven't been brushing nitric acid on yours have you?

Nope, but the gold plating on the one that I used became degraded over time and the plating started to peel away from the under metal, I changed it for a good quality shielded Scart Lead, no problems since.

[Rik]

Obviously, when they said high quality, they didn't include the plating. An unfortunate experience, at least in my experience.

[Nerval]

Well 5 more tries this morning still hasn't got me above 5500 sync rate, so that's me 5Mb profile buggered for today as well.  Not that it matters as I've nothing to download.

[Rik]

You've always got my honeyed words to download.

[Nerval]

Yeah, that'll be why I'm over my limit lol 

[Inactive]

You and me both Nerv, oh well, whats a quid for this quality entertainment.. 

[Nerval]

the phrase "money down the drain" springs to mind

if Rik made shorter posts, he'd keep our bills down. 

[Rik]

Of course, given my post here, there is an alternative way...