Hibernation problem

Glenn · Jan 30, 2009, 11:58:51

They use to mushroom Rik

Ray · Jan 30, 2009, 11:59:29

Quote from: stevethegas on Jan 30, 2009, 11:51:53
But that's how its supposed to be setup,if magic packets are off the WHS won't be able to wake it up for back up,not that's an issue as its awake already Anything else in the house that communicates with that PC? It could be something as simple as the USB mouse.

Right, Steve, I'll forget that theory then

, the only other things connect are a wireless keyboard and mouse, a usb graphics tablet, a usb monitoring connection to the UPS and 2 external usb disks that are normally switched off when the PC is not in use.

Ray · Jan 30, 2009, 12:00:20

Quote from: Rik on Jan 30, 2009, 11:52:30
You shouldn't let the fairies send packets, Ray.

Ray · Jan 30, 2009, 12:00:43

Quote from: Glenn on Jan 30, 2009, 11:58:51
They use to mushroom Rik

Rik · Jan 30, 2009, 12:01:28

Glenn · Jan 30, 2009, 12:02:27

Happy oblige

Steve · Jan 30, 2009, 13:40:22

The other point, if I turn a client PC on the homeserver stays asleep until I wake it via the FSC wake up software or turn on a Squeezebox. (both by magic packets) My issue usually relates to getting them to sleep again once woke for which I use TOff. Have you tried lights out addin for the WHS, never used it or know whether it will add extra functionality but your server I think should still stay asleep even if another PC in the house is turned on.

Ray · Jan 30, 2009, 13:49:26

Quote from: stevethegas on Jan 30, 2009, 13:40:22
The other point, if I turn a client PC on the homeserver stays asleep until I wake it via the FSC wake up software or turn on a Squeezebox. (both by magic packets) My issue usually relates to getting them to sleep again once woke for which I use TOff. Have you tried lights out addin for the WHS, never used it or know whether it will add extra functionality but your server I think should still stay asleep even if another PC in the house is turned on.

Yes I use Lightsout on the Server, Steve, I use the calendar function on it to wake the server in the morning and hibernate it late evening, the server will stay asleep with this if you disable client monitoring otherwise it will wake the server if it detects a client coming online. I use Asoft Autoexit if I want to wake or hibernate any of my clients remotely from the server console.

Steve · Jan 30, 2009, 14:04:01

Doesn't asoft autoexit require WOL (may be wrong) last time I uninstalled that I had to rebuild the server. Nothing in scheduled tasks on that client PC or AV update? Its difficult ,I never did solve the problem of getting certain client PCs to sleep after backup that's why I ended up using TOff on the clients. I backup at night usually so the server wakes them up and then either they sleep automatically or TOff sorts em out.

Sebby · Jan 30, 2009, 14:15:14

Ray, I would check your scheduled tasks and see if any of them are set to wake the computer from hibernation.

Ray · Jan 30, 2009, 14:24:45

Quote from: stevethegas on Jan 30, 2009, 14:04:01
Doesn't asoft autoexit require WOL (may be wrong) last time I uninstalled that I had to rebuild the server. Nothing in scheduled tasks on that client PC or AV update? Its difficult ,I never did solve the problem of getting certain client PCs to sleep after backup that's why I ended up using TOff on the clients. I backup at night usually so the server wakes them up and then either they sleep automatically or TOff sorts em out.

Looks like it does use, WOL, Steve, I think I'll give TOff a try I'd not heard of this one before.

I've checked all my scheduled tasks and none are set to run outside of normal hours.

I thought I'd found it when I upgraded to PD10 the other day because that seems to set itself by default to wake from hibernation if you use Autopilot but disabling wake up on that didn't cure the problem either.

Steve · Jan 30, 2009, 14:46:58

If you try TOff I use the batch file option to keep the same settings

Steve · Jan 30, 2009, 15:18:05

Couple of things @wegotserved. 1 is to disable a couple of the NIC options and the other is a piece of software to check magic packet is working

http://forum.wegotserved.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2657 #8

http://forum.wegotserved.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3052 #2

Ray · Feb 01, 2009, 08:46:40

I think I've solved the problem of my insomniac PC after running the following command line "powercfg /devicequery wake_armed" I found that the wireless usb keyboard and mouse were set to bring the PC out of standby as well as the NIC. I disabled the wake up option on the mouse and the keyboard which seems to have cured the problem as the machine didn't wake up this morning until the Server woke it to do the backup.

Steve · Feb 01, 2009, 09:10:37

Congratulating you on solving the problem,I suppose the more likely of the 2 will be the mouse, I was only thinking how you might wake that machine again from sleep manually, keyboard or powerbutton, are they possible options

Ray · Feb 01, 2009, 09:36:17

Quote from: stevethegas on Feb 01, 2009, 09:10:37
Congratulating you on solving the problem,I suppose the more likely of the 2 will be the mouse, I was only thinking how you might wake that machine again from sleep manually, keyboard or powerbutton, are they possible options

Thanks, Steve, yes the power button works to wake it manually which is the way I normally do it, I've never bothered to use the keyboard option.

Steve · Feb 01, 2009, 09:39:37

I suppose mice are nocturnal animals ,no wonder the poor PC cant stay asleep

Ray · Feb 01, 2009, 09:42:28

Quote from: stevethegas on Feb 01, 2009, 09:39:37
I suppose mice are nocturnal animals ,no wonder the poor PC cant stay asleep

this is true, Steve, might also explain the crumbs of cheese on my desk as well.

Lance · Feb 01, 2009, 10:21:21

I find its the droppings which cause more of a problem!

I take it you looked though the event logs to check there were no entries in there about why the pc was waking up?

Rik · Feb 01, 2009, 11:02:01

Quote from: Lance on Feb 01, 2009, 10:21:21
I find its the droppings which cause more of a problem!

QuoteI take it you looked though the event logs to check there were no entries in there about why the pc was waking up?

It was the fairies...

Ray · Feb 01, 2009, 11:11:51

Quote from: Lance on Feb 01, 2009, 10:21:21
I find its the droppings which cause more of a problem!

I take it you looked though the event logs to check there were no entries in there about why the pc was waking up?

No nothing that I could see, Lance this is the first entry I was getting in the System log when it started and anything in the Application log was timed after this.

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Sebby · Feb 01, 2009, 12:10:09

Glad you found the cause, Steve.

Ray · Feb 22, 2009, 08:51:39

As a follow up to this problem which started to recur a few days after I thought I'd solved it. I have now finally nailed down the cause it seems that it was my AV/Firewall software causing the problem, the PC in question was running Kaspersky Security Suite however I changed over to Eset Security Suite 2 or 3 days ago, since doing so the problem has disappeared and the PC doesn't wake up until woken by the Server to run a backup.

Glenn · Feb 22, 2009, 09:03:18

A result

Simon · Feb 22, 2009, 09:50:04

Perhaps Kaspersky was using Russian time?