Lloyd Webber blames ISPs for growth of internet piracy

[Rik]

So, there are two separate strands to the debate, really. Is it right that one group of workers is rewarded repeatedly for their efforts, while the majority are not, and, if it is, how long should that reward continue for? To my mind, given how rich some people have become from their work, the copyright system appears to bring undue rewards. If it is to be maintained, then a sensible period needs to be decided. I think 50 years is adequate, generous even. I don't see that as unfair, most people make far less money (politicians excepted).

[bobleslie]

No, the argument is whether 'intellectual property' should be treated any different from other 'property'.

When a worker (as an employee) creates an original work for his employer, the copyright is assigned to the employer automatically unless there is some other specific contractual arrangement. Why should the worker have the copyright? Why should the employer lose the benefit of that investment after an arbitrary number of years?

If a company hires me as a consultant, and I produce original work, I can decide on what basis (terms and conditions) I offer my services and indeed any written materials e.g. course notes remain my copyright unless and until I decide to choose otherwise and assign it in writing. I may charge a further fee for allowing the client to use my intellectual property; I may decide to sell the copyright; I may just decide to give it to my children; or give it free of encumbrance to the Nation etc etc. It's my property so I should decide and my assigns should in turn decide also.

The user should then decide whether, or not, to accept my terms. Simples.

Imagine the chaos that would result if you applied intellectual property copyright to fixed assets like buildings, cars, jewellery.

[Ted]

What? Lots of plastic surgery, singing cr@p songs and having the most mysterious sexuality since the dawn of man 

Cynic! 

[bobleslie]

Cliff's o.k. I don't really care too much about what he gets up to in his spare time.   

[Rik]

The user should then decide whether, or not, to accept my terms. Simples.

Imagine the chaos that would result if you applied intellectual property copyright to fixed assets like buildings, cars, jewellery.

It would make life rather interesting, don't you think?

[bobleslie]

Yes, it would make it hilarious. Must be a film or three in it. 

It reminds me of the old theatrical joke:

"Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we're just about to have a 15 minute interval.

Remember, the toilets are located adjacent to the entrance doors facing you, Ladies on the right, Gents on the left.

At least I think that's the right way round. Anyway if I'm wrong you're bound to meet a lot of new friends!"

[Rik]

Wear a kilt, avoid confusion.