Need some advice concerning Socket Wiring

[Gary]

I'd like to thank Gary for his kind offer.

But I think I will delay taking him up on it for a few days at least. Yesterday I followed some previous advice of wiring the A + B points using the expectoration method, I had tried it a few days earlier but didn't see any 'fizzle'. Though this time I did find the blue wire made some very slight bubbling so I hooked this to the A pin and t'other to the B. Since doing this I haven't heard any interference, but it's early days yet. The interference does disappear for a few days before turning up again.

Assuming this may have been the problem, is the only reason I'm still getting terrible speeds is due to BT's IP profiling? If you look at the BT Speedtester results I pasted earlier my Profile is set to 135kbs but I actually received 124kbs during the test, so would that indicate if I'm being capped that I'm not even achieving the roof level anyway? So even with my sync speed being over 3,000 I'm not even receiving the maximum 135k rate.

When it's sank to this rate before my Profile recovers within a day, but this has been like this for around 4 days now with no improvement. Do I need to phone Idnet to get them to tell BT to raise my IP profile manually?

Thanks Ninny, if you need it give me a PM 

[pup]

.... earth stake o/s property and that was connected as well......... what goes around comes around.

don't you mean what goes around goes to ground 

[Rik]

[Ninny]

Ok, I spoke to IDnet customer support this morning and they managed to get my IP profile reset. Great work gang!

After a few hours I rebooted my router which synced around 3,600k and on the BT speedtester my profile had jumped from 135k to 2,500k. Marvelous.

My connection can obviously handle more but I'm happy with 2,500 as being usable for my needs, however.. only a few hours later someone was on the phone and when I checked my sync my rate had dropped to around 448k!!!! I quickly turned my router off until the call was done and then rebooted it and I have synced back at 2816k which is a margin lower but I was praying my IP profile hadn't reverted back as well, thankfully it hasn't as of yet.

If my connection is dropping while someone is on the phone is this a line issue or filter issue, anybody know? Because I can't help people making phone calls... but if my Profile drops to 135k again.. I'm buying a gun!

[Rik]

It could be the phone, filter or line, Ninny, an HR fault can, for example, cause that behaviour. All you can do is to eliminate any possible issues with your own equipment and then get BT involved, via IDNet.

[gingerjedi]

I've had the exact same problem for years now, I've posted on here several times as some may remember.

I've tried: re-wiring, 3 different routers, several filters (including ADSLNation), shielded RJ11 cable all to no avail.

It just pops up and plays havoc for a few days and then goes away again, I've had IDNET and BT on the case but neither could fix it. I've heard people say it could be a high resistance joint anywhere between the exchange and me but I'm powerless to get anyone to check this out,

I'd love to know if Ninny found a fix?

[Ninny]

I would try opening up the socket and swapping the A and B wires around, as it seems when they are in the correct way I get a line drop every time someone phones, and also interference. Yet when they are wired up seemingly the wrong way - the higher voltage wire on B rather than A - it seems to make the line much more stable. I've only had a week or so of playing around with this so I can't say it's a definate fix - it might be a faulty joint on the line like you say - but the interference hasn't been back so far - but that may just be coincidence!

[gingerjedi]

I've only had a week or so of playing around with this so I can't say it's a definate fix - it might be a faulty joint on the line like you say - but the interference hasn't been back so far - but that may just be coincidence!

I hear you there, I've thought it's been fixed on numerous occasions only for it to re-appear months later.

I'll try the wire swap, when it drops do you hear the ADSL router trying to reconnect? I've got a Netgear DG834GT and I can hear digital noise when it tries to connect after a dropout, unplugging the router from the phone system removes the noise altogether.  BTW I'm on the Home2000 fixed 2meg service as it seems a little more stable than ADSLMAX, I want to try MAX again but I'm afraid it will be worse.

[Rik]

I can hear digital noise when it tries to connect after a dropout, unplugging the router from the phone system removes the noise altogether.

That's a classic description of a faulty filter, Ginger. Have you ever tried a different router in your quest?

[gingerjedi]

That's a classic description of a faulty filter, Ginger. Have you ever tried a different router in your quest?

You would thinks so wouldn't you but I have ADSLNation filters and I've tried 3 different routers, the Belkin one didn't make as much noise but it still dropped, I reverted to the Netgear as it's much easier to see whats going on with routerstats.

Like I said I have the exact same fault as Ninny and he (I'm guessing he) has tried the same fixes, I reckon it's the line between my house and the pole but there's no way BT will replace that as it's not a voice fault, I guess I'll be waiting a few years for them to drop fibre down the drains.

I agree that somehow the filter isn't seperating the signal, but I don't know why? Tried 2 filters inline as well, could my line be shared with someone else somehow??

[Rik]

The line couldn't be shared, ADSL wouldn't work at all. The only thing I can think of is something like an HR fault, obscure but troublesome at ADSL frequencies. Switching polarity at the back of the master socket, technically illegal, might be worth a try.

[Ninny]

Yes, touching those wires is illegal so I was just writing some telephony related fan fiction out of sheer boredom. So if you did happen to switch the wires around - which of course you shouldn't - don't let me know how you get on via PM or anything, ok?

[Rik]

 

[gingerjedi]

I don't believe it, I got home and found a card on my doormat explaining how BT are going to replace all the cables and poles in our road over the next couple of weeks.   

[Lance]

Here's hoping they do a good job! 

[Sebby]

I don't believe it, I got home and found a card on my doormat explaining how BT are going to replace all the cables and poles in our road over the next couple of weeks.   

Excellent! I can't imagine the day when we'll see that.

[Ted]

I don't believe it, I got home and found a card on my doormat explaining how BT are going to replace all the cables and poles in our road over the next couple of weeks.   

Ah! But did they say what they were going to replace them with?

[Sebby]

Good point. Could be string.

[Ted]

Good point. Could be string.

Hope they make it nice and damp!

[Sebby]

It's a bank holiday weekend don't forget. I'm sure nature will take care of that.

[Lance]

I'm sure string is still an improvement though!

[Rik]

It depends what it's made from. Now, aluminium string is not a lot of good... 

[Ted]

It depends what it's made from. Now, aluminium string is not a lot of good... 

No its not, but its probably cheaper than copper at the moment... i wonder 

[Rik]

We've been there, Ted, and are still paying for the saving. 

[BrianM]

 wrong thread