Changing Theme!

Ted · May 26, 2009, 22:25:58

Noticed something odd, just started happening this evening. Somehow my theme had changed from Skyline to idnetters v2, on its own

I changed it back in "look and layout", now when i log in it is Skyline but when i log out it reverts to idnetters v2. It never used to do that

I've tried clearing cookies, cache etc, to no avail. Any ideas?

Sebby · May 26, 2009, 22:28:35

Due to a "technical glitch" the default theme has been changed to IDNet v2, so that's the reason you see that theme when you are logged out. Sorry for the inconvenience - things should be back to normal soon.

Ted · May 26, 2009, 22:30:32

Quote from: Sebby on May 26, 2009, 22:28:35
Due to a "technical glitch" the default theme has been changed to IDNet v2, so that's the reason you see that theme when you are logged out. Sorry for the inconvenience - things should be back to normal soon.

Thanks Seb, i'm always happy when i know its not "me"

Simon · May 26, 2009, 22:35:29

I don't think we realised that existing members would be affected, and it's only when you log out that you see the 'v2' theme, as the forum doesn't know which theme you have chosen, until you log back in again.

Anyone who wants to change back to Skyline can do so, as the issue only affects 'Guests', or members who are not logged in.

Ted · May 26, 2009, 22:41:38

Quote from: Simon on May 26, 2009, 22:35:29
I don't think we realised that existing members would be affected.

Ah! the best laid plans...

Rik · May 27, 2009, 08:29:11

I was convinced that it would only show when people were logged out, Ted.

kinmel · May 27, 2009, 09:08:49

Quote from: Simon on May 26, 2009, 22:35:29
I don't think we realised that existing members would be affected, and it's only when you log out that you see the 'v2' theme, as the forum doesn't know which theme you have chosen, until you log back in again.

Anyone who wants to change back to Skyline can do so, as the issue only affects 'Guests', or members who are not logged in.

I land on unread posts and automatically log in.

The board shows me as already logged in and yet my theme is changed too

Edit. it changed overnight, when i return after a short break I stay with the correct theme

Rik · May 27, 2009, 09:10:25

What happens if you go to the front page, rather than straight to posts, Alan? We're puzzled by what's happened as the majority of members have not had the theme changed (which is what was intended), but a handful have.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 09:29:16

Sounds daft and i can't really see how but, could it be a Linux thing? As you may recall i use Linux and so does Alan, although i'm not sure if he uses it full time.

Just a thought

Rik · May 27, 2009, 09:33:38

It's possible, Ted, but I'm not sure how. The settings for the theme choice are retained in the forum profile for each member, ie on the server, so shouldn't be affected by anything on the users' machine. The only function of the cookie is to keep people logged in, so unless something weird is going on with that which we don't know about, the OS should have no impact.

The change I made was that the default theme would be IDNet v2 (as we call it), but that it wasn't a 'forced' change, so nobody's profile setting should have altered. However, roughly 100 people out of 1300 did get changed.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 09:47:04

Yes a puzzle, still, no harm done but it is curious how it only affected some people.

This "server" you speak of, its name wouldn't be "Trevor", would it?

Rik · May 27, 2009, 09:48:59

Trevor is still dead, last time I checked, Ted.

The forum runs on Samson, sadly, there is no Delilah.

Gary · May 27, 2009, 09:51:57

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2009, 09:33:38
It's possible, Ted, but I'm not sure how. The settings for the theme choice are retained in the forum profile for each member, ie on the server, so shouldn't be affected by anything on the users' machine. The only function of the cookie is to keep people logged in, so unless something weird is going on with that which we don't know about, the OS should have no impact.

The change I made was that the default theme would be IDNet v2 (as we call it), but that it wasn't a 'forced' change, so nobody's profile setting should have altered. However, roughly 100 people out of 1300 did get changed.

Mine changed, the present one is all mucked up when viewed as logged out for me anyway some of the text overlaps the coloured block at the top, the text "session length" is partly in the mini user centre coloured block. I have selected skyline when logged in anyway.

Rik · May 27, 2009, 09:54:22

We're not sure, at this point, what broke, Gary.

Gary · May 27, 2009, 09:55:56

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2009, 09:54:22
We're not sure, at this point, what broke, Gary.

Sometimes computer technology, and its languages are to much like hard work

Ted · May 27, 2009, 09:57:53

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2009, 09:54:22
We're not sure, at this point, what broke, Gary.

Let's blame Sebby, as he's not here to defend himself. Probably laying low.

kinmel · May 27, 2009, 10:00:53

Quote from: Ted on May 27, 2009, 09:29:16
Sounds daft and i can't really see how but, could it be a Linux thing? As you may recall i use Linux and so does Alan, although i'm not sure if he uses it full time.

Just a thought

today's problem is on one XP machine using firefox. 2 other xp machines and a Ubuntu show the correct theme when I arrive logged in.

kinmel · May 27, 2009, 10:04:27

Yesterday I changed my profile, is it possible that has caused the problem.

Did anyone else reporting the problem change their profile too ?

Rik · May 27, 2009, 10:04:50

Even more weird, Alan. Can you try clearing the cache and cookie on the affected machine?

Rik · May 27, 2009, 10:06:06

Quote from: kinmel on May 27, 2009, 10:04:27
Yesterday I changed my profile, is it possible that has caused the problem.

It shouldn't affect anything, but I wouldn't rule it out as we can't explain what has happened. Currently, you are on Skyline.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 10:09:36

Quote from: kinmel on May 27, 2009, 10:04:27
Yesterday I changed my profile, is it possible that has caused the problem.

Did anyone else reporting the problem change their profile too ?

I don't recall changing anything, hardly ever go there to be honest.

Rik · May 27, 2009, 10:11:32

You are also showing as on Skyline, Ted.

kinmel · May 27, 2009, 10:12:25

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2009, 10:06:06
Currently, you are on Skyline.

yes, I reset it when I started up in V2 this morning.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 10:14:24

Quote from: kinmel on May 27, 2009, 10:12:25
yes, I reset it when I started up in V2 this morning.

Same here.

Steve · May 27, 2009, 10:17:08

I thought it was me being daft

logout in skyline goes to v2 login. Login back to skyline. Using FF on mac

Sebby · May 27, 2009, 10:17:25

Quote from: Ted on May 27, 2009, 09:57:53
Let's blame Sebby, as he's not here to defend himself. Probably laying low.

Rik · May 27, 2009, 10:22:24

That's what should happen, Steve.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 10:22:33

Quote from: Sebby on May 27, 2009, 10:17:25

oops!

Steve · May 27, 2009, 10:29:41

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2009, 10:22:24
That's what should happen, Steve.

I was being daft then just shows I never usually logout

Rik · May 27, 2009, 10:31:30

Me neither.

Simon · May 27, 2009, 11:31:08

The default theme has now been reset to Skyline. Apologies for any confusion!

kinmel · May 27, 2009, 11:49:12

It appears to be more complicated than that

Look at the screenshot below......... in the top right it says "Hello Kinmel" , so I am logged in. Yet across the centre of the page it says "Please note: To view all of the main categories of the forum, you will need to log in or register."

I have 2 firefox tabs open for Idnetters and am logged into both

Complicated isn't it ?

and I only have an option to LOGOUT not LOGIN

Simon · May 27, 2009, 12:18:05

Yes, the newsfader item is a temporary measure, Alan, directed at guests or newcomers, who may not be aware that some of the boards are only visible to members. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to make the newsfader 'disappear' once one is logged in.

The 'problem' is that nowhere on the default (Skyline) theme, does it say that some boards are not visible to non-members, so it was thought that potential newcomers might think, "Is that it?" when browsing the forum as a Guest. As soon as we can get some suitable wording coded in, which will only appear to Guests, then the newsfader will be removed.

I've changed the wording slightly, so hopefully it makes more sense now.

Ted · May 27, 2009, 12:57:55

Everything working fine now Simon.

cheers

Rik · May 27, 2009, 14:23:18

Though we are still puzzled why some people's theme was changed by an action which should only have affected new members. Computers.