Good news - June 17, 2009

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 10:56:25

Simon has sunk his teeth deep into the jugular of BT and, as a result, the hostlink capacity was increased overnight (it may even be what kicked me off the system).

IDNet and, I am sure, all of us hope that BT are as good as their word - but the acid test will come early this evening, as people begin to use the system in earnest (you may be aware that this time yesterday, there was no hint of the problems to come).

If you do continue to have problems, please post your issues in the forum, so that IDNet can get a view on what's happening.

Noreen · Jun 17, 2009, 11:05:59

IDNet and Simon!

MikeSh · Jun 17, 2009, 11:07:09

Phew! - That's good news -

It's nice to have an isp that is on the customers side

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 11:08:11

It's good for IDNet to have their customers on their side too, Mike. Simon et al are as frustrated as hell with the mess that BT have managed to create.

Noreen · Jun 17, 2009, 11:18:52

I've just lost my conection for 4mins, would that be anything to do with IDNet?

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 13:33:54

I don't know, tbh, Noreen. I lost mine this morning, I suspect as the result of the BT changes, though it could have been an exchange fault as both lines went down.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 15:41:45

My d/s speed had dropped from 2900 to 480k by lunchtime. IDNet have found someone in BT who recognised the symptoms and aid he could fix it permanently. My speeds are back to 2800-2900, so I'm hopinh he's right.

If you do meet any problems, please post with details as this guy has given IDNet an 'out of hours' contact number.

Bill · Jun 17, 2009, 15:57:10

It's looking promising, 9.3Mbps and no congestion indications

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results/id/124525004151067822210.html

Stupid BT tester finished the download then errored out (busy) on the results page... then refused to let me try again for 3 hours

Steve · Jun 17, 2009, 16:01:37

Hopefully progress

as long as the he's not dedicated the hostlink for your personal use.

Its a whole new learning process for a system that appears not very intuitive.

As individual apart from readjusting your own downstream margin there is little one can do. I did read somewhere that even this may not be possible on the BT system with a lock being placed on an individyals max sync somehow.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 16:09:17

So I've heard, Steve, not that I could do much with a locked 9db target and 63db of d/s attenuation.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 16:11:07

Quote from: Bill on Jun 17, 2009, 15:57:10
Stupid BT tester finished the download then errored out (busy) on the results page... then refused to let me try again for 3 hours

Don't you just love that BT tester.

My 'conclusion' after 24 hours or so is that I will gain nothing downstream, as expected from all the graphs I looked at, but have gained 300k upstream and, of course, a much larger allowance. If speeds hold up, it will have been worth the move.

Bill · Jun 17, 2009, 16:18:31

I was hoping for a higher sync... the tables I looked at indicated 16-17Mbps rather than the 12 I'm getting, but so far I'm happy.

Now if I can get interleaving turned off and (hopefully) the target SNRM dropped to 6db after the training period... I'll see if I can get a 10Mbps speedtest

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 16:30:36

Go for it, Bill. I live at that point where all the graphs converge, so I knew what I was in for. Did you try Andrew's calculator?

Bill · Jun 17, 2009, 16:43:23

Yeah, Andrew's gave me the 16-17 figure, and one or two others I tried (can't remember where). The most accurate was the BT figure from the IDNet page, which was a bit of a shock because I've always found that to be pessimistic in the past.

When I first went to an 8Meg line it predicted 6-6.5Mbps, and I got a rock-solid 8128 with 2 or 3 db spare... gone down since of course, with more and more people on broadband.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 16:47:31

That's part of the problem, imo, Bill, crosstalk has gone up in BT's cables by a huge amount when I look back at my line stats over the past three years (yes, I am anal enough to keep records

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Steve · Jun 17, 2009, 16:50:31

Quote from: Rik on Jun 17, 2009, 16:09:17
So I've heard, Steve, not that I could do much with a locked 9db target and 63db of d/s attenuation.

When things have stabilized would forcing ADSL2 give enough to up your profile.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 16:53:19

I don't think the 2700 can, can it, Steve?

Steve · Jun 17, 2009, 16:58:59

No it can't, you'd have to try something like a 585v6. I have seen results posted from a billion which achieved far higher sync rates on a long line with ADSL2 compared with ADSL2+. Not sure whether netgears are capable unless the DGTeam firmware allows it.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 17:02:36

It might be worth a play, Steve. Remind me next month when I'm all sun-tanned (or rusty!).

Steve · Jun 17, 2009, 17:23:38

I will, I'll have to look in my adsl router "museum"to see if any are compatible with ADSL2. Hopefully I wont be rusty (just knackered)as off walking in an uphill direction (massif central) in Languedoc for the whole of next week.

Noreen · Jun 17, 2009, 17:24:51

Quote from: Bill on Jun 17, 2009, 15:57:10
Stupid BT tester finished the download then errored out (busy) on the results page... then refused to let me try again for 3 hours

That's what happened to me.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 17:29:09

You'd think by now they'd have got it to work, wouldn't you.

Ray · Jun 17, 2009, 17:30:53

Quote from: Rik on Jun 17, 2009, 17:02:36
It might be worth a play, Steve. Remind me next month when I'm all sun-tanned (or rusty!).

More likely rusty in the UK, Rik.

Rik · Jun 17, 2009, 17:32:56

I know, I know.

rireed3 · Jun 17, 2009, 17:44:54

QuoteMy throughput is suddenly perfect.

This I posted on the 'slow ADSL2+' topic at 17:31:52

here

Richard