Just got a free 2700

[JB]

Took a couple of secs but got there Rik.

[Rik]

 

[Glenn]

But does it work on BT from there

I claim the record for the first long distance one!

I have one at my place in Spain and it even works with Telefonica (spit!).

[quandam]

OK. Either the 5V 4A PSU I took off the shelf and changed the plug on is dodgy (or I chose the wrong combination of wires from the 4 core output lead) or the 2700 is duff.

When powered up it does a seemingly random combination of flashes of bright red, dim red and green with the power light, always ending up on dim red. From what I've read so far that's not a good sign.

Does anyone have any suggestions and what's the best way to get inside the case please?

Thanks,
Paul.

Dangerjunkie

I have a 2700 that works fine. If you would like it for £10.00 inc p&p then PM me with your name and address and I will send it to you

I am not deeply into the tech bit but I do know that it works OK via IDNet.

[MisterW]

Six here! . One and a spare at home, likewise in the office, plus one each for 2 outworkers (they arent important enough to warrant spares!  )

[Rik]

Did I mention the two Netgears?

[LesD]

Did I mention the two Netgears?

No I don't think you did Rik, well not in this thread.  

I have one myself, a collectors item, a DG384 "Mk 1". Note the quote because there wasn't a mark number until later ones came along.  

[Rik]

You should get that on the Antiques Road Show, Les. 

[Dangerjunkie]

Hi,

Thanks for the offers. Is it possible to turn off the NAT and make the 2700 into a dumb modem or PPPoE gateway? I have a dedicated firewall as I have multiple networks in my home-office on VLANs.

I think this is a powering problem mine has. Does anyone know how to get it apart without butchering the case please?

Thanks,
Paul.

[Rik]

Yes, you can use the 2700 in bridge mode. I've never tried to take one apart, the only power problem I've met has been from a failing brick.

[MisterW]

Does anyone know how to get it apart without butchering the case please?

Yep , this post might help http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16134181
I've had one apart once , you 'gently' prise off the top cover. It's held by a couple of pegs which fit into the two holes you can see in the front of the first photo and IIRC clips which fit into the slots you can also see in the photo.
Just take it slowly and it comes apart quite easily ( and goes back together!! ).

[Dangerjunkie]

*prize* *sproing*

Thanks MisterW

[Dangerjunkie]

OK. I think I fixed it.  I took the board out and powered it up in my hands. I noticed that when I touched near the power connector the power led would get brighter then turn green. It turns out that one of the legs of the coils in the power section hadn't been soldered onto the board properly when it was made(I think the coils are put in by hand). The only thing that had kept it going for 3 years was the wire from the coil touching the edge of the hole!    A quick dab with a soldering iron and the behaviour is very different:

When plugged in the power LED turns red for about a second then starts flashing green. After about 30 seconds it goes solid green and there is a click from the router. After another 30 seconds the phone 1 and 2 LEDs light solid and the broadband LED starts flashing. After a few more seconds the phone LEDs go out and the broadband LED carries on flashing (there is no line connected). These indications seem pretty normal so I have hope it may work.

I just connected a PC to the Ethernet and got a regularly-blinking Ethernet LED and a 192.168.1. address given to the PC. The web interface is responding at 192.168.1.254. It says the software version is 5.29.107.12.

I don't know the password the 2700's former owner used so I held down the reset button until all the lights went out as it says in the PDF manual I downloaded. I then tried entering the unit serial number (12 numeric digits) as printed on the label and shown in the GUI. The password was rejected. Is there anything else I need to do to reset the password please?

I tried clicking I'd forgotten the password and it gave me a code and told me to call 2Wire but their website says their products are only sold by ISPs and I should call my provider (I don't have a BT account so I don't expect much luck there.)

Cheers,
Paul.

Thanks,
Paul.

[Rik]

I thought that the factory reset cleared the password, Paul, ie there isn't one set by default.

[Dangerjunkie]

Hi Rik,

That's what it said in the manual I downloaded from BT. It looks like the manual is either wrong or doesn't apply to the software release I have. It said hold sown the reset button until the lights go out then release it. That just seems to be soft reset on mine. I just tried holding the reset button for a long time, until the untit had completely reset (and crashed). That has finally wiped all the settings out.

There seem to be a couple of different software options with different advantages and disadvantages. Do you think I should stay with 5.29.107.12 (less features but allegedly doesn't autoupdate), go up to 5.29.117.x or do something else?

Cheers,
Paul.

[Rik]

I'm using 107.12 myself.

[Dangerjunkie]

Thanks

I'm trying to get my head round how to set this baby up for my application (which is specialised).Earlier you mentioned "bridging mode"... There seem to be two things that might be "bridging mode":

In MDC>Broadband Link>Configure it's possible to change the ATM Encapsulation mode from "Routed VC-Mux" to "Bridged VC-Mux".

In MDC>Advanced>Configure Services there is a box called "Enable Routing" that says "Routing Disabled = Bridge mode"

What I want to achieve is for my dedicated firewall to receive all traffic and be able to deal with it as it sees fit. I currently use a Draytek Vigor 110 ADSL bridge that offers the raw PPPoA from IDNet to the firewall (which then logs in with my IDNet username and password and picks up the whole incoming pipe over a PPPoE connection that has my public IP address.) I currently only have one IDNet IP address but I would like to future-proof myself so the firewall will receive all the incoming data if I buy a block of static addresses in future.

What are the implications of changing the above MDC settings please?

Thanks,
Paul.

[Rik]

AFAIK, they turn off NAT, not sure about the firewall though.

[Dangerjunkie]

I got it configured and have a couple of observations:

1) Wow it's quick! I've currently got a 3500 profile (usually have 4000). The 2700 is syncing at 5792 which should have me on course for a 5000 profile if everything holds. Will hopefully be even better if my snrm comes down from 9.

2) If you put it on its side (I don't have the stand) it don't arf get hot!

Cheers,
Paul.

[kinmel]

What I want to achieve is for my dedicated firewall to receive all traffic and be able to deal with it as it sees fit.

In Firewall settings select DMZ mode for your own firewall connection to the router, everything is passed through thereafter

[Rik]

2) If you put it on its side (I don't have the stand) it don't arf get hot!

If you pick up some small rubber feet from a DIY store, and increase the air gap, Paul, it will help.

[MisterW]

What I want to achieve is for my dedicated firewall to receive all traffic and be able to deal with it as it sees fit. I currently use a Draytek Vigor 110 ADSL bridge that offers the raw PPPoA from IDNet to the firewall (which then logs in with my IDNet username and password and picks up the whole incoming pipe over a PPPoE connection that has my public IP address.)

I use a 2700 in the office with a set of 8 static IP's and a Smoothwall firewall. The 2700 is configured to route the public IP's to the firewall using the 'Public routed subinterface' and 'Public proxied subnet' facilities on the Network configuration page http://home/xslt?PAGE=J09&THISPAGE=J05&NEXTPAGE=J09. The firewall's public interface is set to our primary public IP and in this case the 2700 makes a PPPOA connection with  username etc and just routes all incoming traffic to the firewall. Well actually not quite, the 2700 is very clever we discovered!. It can do both NAT AND public IP routing... On the Network config page you can also configure a Private network even with Public routing enabled. This means that we can connect some systems direct to the 2700 ( wired or wirelessly ) and get allocated private IP's and can access the outside world but cant get into our office network. Great when we have visiting client's who want to check email with their laptops , they can get an internet connection without being able to see our internal network. If you need more details on how to set it up then drop me a PM and I'll get a screen dump of the Network config screen and send you the details.
Hope that helps.

Edit: just noticed there is a sticky post on the forum explaining how to set up routing with public IP's here http://www.idnetters.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=13830.0

[Dangerjunkie]

Hi,

Thanks for that. I'll investigate what is possible

The other night I found another way of skinning this cat: If you go to the MDC>broadband advanced settings tab and change the ATM-Encapsulation to "Bridged VC-Mux" and the Connection-Type to "Direct" then go to MDC>Advanced>Configure Services and untick the "routing" box the 2700 becomes a dumb modem (It hands out one IP address on one of the Ethernet ports then passes the raw PPP from the ADSL to it). You connect your firewall to one of the Ethernet ports then set it up to connect to IDNet via PPPoE (the username and password go in the firewall, not the modem). The downside is you don't get access to the web interface any more (or not that I've discovered how to do)

Cheers,
Paul.

[MisterW]

AFAIK the 2700 uses its default IP ( 192,168.1.254 ) in Bridged mode. Problem is DHCP is disabled and so the only way to access the web interface is by connecting directly to one of its ports with a fixed IP in the 192.168.1.x subnet.

[Dangerjunkie]

OK. That may explain a strangeness. The firewall thinks the IP details of the hard network port facing the modem are:

         inet addr:1.1.1.1  Bcast:1.1.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
         UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

It works fine tho so it must be right...

Cheers,
Paul.