Your Opinions Please

[zappaDPJ]

I'm posting from a family member's connection who I recently brought to IDNet. We are trying to decide whether or not to switch to WBC. The current connection is not particularly stable and appears to have a roving sync speed. This is almost certainly due to the distance from the exchange which is probably around three kilometres. Here are the router stats:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 3776 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 46.5 db 28.0 db
Noise Margin 16.5 db 21 db

Any thoughts?

[Glenn]

If it is the distance causing the instability, then I would stay with Max, with the higher frequencies of WBC I would think it would increase the instability. I'm sure someone with more knowledge will correct me if I'm wrong.

[Rik]

I agree, Glenn. Stay put, no question.

[Simon_idnet]

I'd be surprised if this line were to see any benefit from ADSL2+
Simon

[Rik]

We are unanimous.

[Simon]

That's what I would have said too.   

[Rik]

 

[Glenn]

 

[zappaDPJ]

 

Cheers, I'll pass on the advice 

[Simon_idnet]

They may be interested in the increased bandwidth allowance though...
Simon

[rireed3]

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 3776 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 46.5 db 28.0 db
Noise Margin 16.5 db 21 db

Looks noisy to me.  By all means stay on Max, but if possible figure out why the sync is so poor for 46.5 db attenuation.  I think it will be involuntarily moved to WBC eventually and it would be good to solve the line problem first.

Richard

[Sebby]

The stats are pretty poor for the attenuation, most probably due to the 15dB target margin. This indicates instability (probably can be sorted by way of ring wire removal). On WBC, I'd say things will get worse. I'd avoid it - what's the point of having a higher allowance if the connection is terrible?

[zappaDPJ]

It's always been a low quality connection and I believe the ring wire was removed sometime ago but it made no perceivable difference. If it was me I'd go with Virgin cable as it's available here but it means digging a trench across the front garden which they don't seem to want to do. Personally I'd be prepared to get down on my hands and knees and dig it out with a spoon to get that kind of connection but then again it's not my garden 

I've advised them to stick with what they have even though they had to pay a whole British pound last month for exceeding their bandwidth allowance 

Thanks for the replies

[Rik]

What speed is on offer from Virgin, Zap?

[zappaDPJ]

It seems that up to 50 Mbs is available here and that isn't a typo.

[Rik]

Pass me the shovel.

[zappaDPJ]

 

[Sebby]

Unless things have changed at Virgin, they throttle pretty hard.

[Glenn]

So do some of their customers

[Sebby]

[zappaDPJ]

 

[Colin Burns]

would have thought virgin would have just used one of the hole digger thingys that only result in the guy laying the cable to dig a hole to get the machine in.  though that may be far to sensible and cost effective for virgin..