AAISP looking to ditch BT

Tacitus · Aug 13, 2009, 15:56:34

Looks as if AAISP have had enough of BT and the issues surrounding 21CN. At least they look to be offering links to an alternative alternative network in an effort to do something about the shambles that BT is currently becoming.

I wonder if any other ISP will jump ship and start to use either Be or possibly C&W who also have an extensive network. Not sure how this would affect WBC.

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 16:02:04

Very interesting, they may not be the last to make such a move.

Tacitus · Aug 13, 2009, 16:07:52

Quote from: Rik on Aug 13, 2009, 16:02:04
Very interesting, they may not be the last to make such a move.

Given AAISP's penchant for telling it like it is, there may be some more interesting information to come out of all this. If enough ISPs do it and publicise the fact very loudly, this could hit BTs efforts to get their hands in the taxpayer's pocket.

Also since BT is rapidly becoming a pensions liability with the encumbrance of a communications network, I suspect the only reason they are issuing a share dividend is to reduce the risk of a takeover bid.

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 16:34:00

It could also reveal Ofcom in a very harsh light.

dujas · Aug 13, 2009, 17:22:05

I believe Vivaciti, the Entanet reseller, also now resell BE LLU after suffering a backlash from Entanet's traffic management debarcle. Dangerous territory to be moving into though, what's to stop customers just cutting out the middle man and switching to BE?

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 17:33:41

I suppose the same thing which stops people going to BT?

Tacitus · Aug 13, 2009, 18:30:00

Quote from: dujas on Aug 13, 2009, 17:22:05
....Dangerous territory to be moving into though, what's to stop customers just cutting out the middle man and switching to BE?

I imagine AAISP believe their 'we will fix your line' sales pitch will still bring in the customers. Even if the go to Be for the network traffic, they're still going to have issues with the last mile.

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 18:32:01

With the same Openreach engineers working on them.

Tacitus · Aug 13, 2009, 18:40:17

Quote from: Rik on Aug 13, 2009, 18:32:01
With the same Openreach engineers working on them.

Exactly. It must be a nightmare being in the ISP business at present.

David · Aug 13, 2009, 18:42:23

quandam · Aug 13, 2009, 18:44:21

Quote from: Tacitus on Aug 13, 2009, 18:30:00
I imagine AAISP believe their 'we will fix your line' sales pitch will still bring in the customers. Even if the go to Be for the network traffic, they're still going to have issues with the last mile.

I do agree, you can't get out of the 'basic' system offered

Simon · Aug 13, 2009, 18:48:08

Look what David done now! Viva la revolution!

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 18:49:59

You mean David's on the turn?

Simon · Aug 13, 2009, 19:07:16

David · Aug 13, 2009, 19:12:25

Cutting edge ....me

Glenn · Aug 13, 2009, 19:14:34

I think you may need one of these David

Rik · Aug 13, 2009, 19:18:53

They don't like it up 'em.

David · Aug 13, 2009, 19:36:58

...alright then

David · Aug 13, 2009, 19:39:35

QuoteYou mean David's on the turn

not me shipmate

Ann · Aug 13, 2009, 20:29:57

If everyone uses Be, we'll end up with congestion all over again. I think they should stay away

David · Aug 13, 2009, 20:44:36

You only have yourself to blame Ann now move over I need some of that speed

Simon · Aug 13, 2009, 22:37:39

Yes, you can't expect to brag about it on here, Ann, and then keep it all to yourself!

Ann · Aug 13, 2009, 22:51:28

But... but... but.. the cutomer service comes from.. wait for it.. Bulgaria! Yous all wouldn't like that.

David · Aug 13, 2009, 22:53:42

Come on Ann we all know they are in Milton Keynes

Simon · Aug 13, 2009, 23:00:52