Muswell Hill FTTC planning refused

Glenn · Aug 15, 2009, 14:43:55

Haringey council have rejected the proposal for cabinets

http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=199502

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/nimby-block-on-superfast-broadband-803.html

Rik · Aug 15, 2009, 14:44:47

Which could put a spoke in BT's plans.

Sebby · Aug 15, 2009, 14:50:35

They're probably secretly happy about that!

Rik · Aug 15, 2009, 14:55:14

It gives them more time to invent new jargon.

Colin Burns · Sep 08, 2009, 19:00:02

i just like the part where the box is already installed

Rik · Sep 08, 2009, 19:02:39

Ah, but it's an empty box.

Colin Burns · Sep 08, 2009, 19:26:08

like the rest of BTs exchanges then aswell

drummer · Sep 08, 2009, 19:27:08

Flipping 'eck, the proposed cabinets are pretty large items of street furniture and are taller than me! I live in a conservation area and I suspect the reaction round here to these cabinets will be the same as Haringey's.

Perhaps Openreach need to be a bit creative when scouting for locations as I can't see this decision being a one-off.

Rik · Sep 08, 2009, 19:30:52

It won't be. Living in a 'smart' area may condemn people to poor ADSL as things stand.

Glenn · Sep 08, 2009, 19:32:07

My front garden is available to site one.

Rik · Sep 08, 2009, 19:33:43

I've earmarked a corner of the footpath at the back of the house.

Colin Burns · Sep 08, 2009, 19:34:47

Quote from: drummer on Sep 08, 2009, 19:27:08
Flipping 'eck, the proposed cabinets are pretty large items of street furniture and are taller than me! I live in a conservation area and I suspect the reaction round here to these cabinets will be the same as Haringey's.

Perhaps Openreach need to be a bit creative when scouting for locations as I can't see this decision being a one-off.

they could make them look like trees

Glenn · Sep 08, 2009, 19:36:33

Like these http://www.prattfamily.demon.co.uk/mikep/photind.htm

Rik · Sep 08, 2009, 19:40:00

At Christmas, they could break all the fibres open and use them as decorations.

Colin Burns · Sep 08, 2009, 19:57:34

good idea dont think they would be as effective though

Sebby · Sep 09, 2009, 01:02:54

Quote from: Rik on Sep 08, 2009, 19:40:00
At Christmas, they could break all the fibres open and use them as decorations.

Would that interfere with our copper like Christmas trees do?

Rik · Sep 09, 2009, 10:17:52

You bet.

Gary · Sep 15, 2009, 18:27:13

I'm in a conservation area as well, brilliant

Rik · Sep 15, 2009, 18:28:44

It's OK, Gary, here we're in a conversation area.

Gary · Sep 15, 2009, 18:33:07

Quote from: Rik on Sep 15, 2009, 18:28:44
It's OK, Gary, here we're in a conversation area.

I'm in a time warp area where the average age is older than the planet I think. I bet those cabinets will be rejected country wide, they are huge

Why cannot BT run things more underground like in other countries.

Rik · Sep 15, 2009, 18:45:20

Cost?

Ann · Sep 16, 2009, 09:27:10

Fascinating pictures, Glenn. I didn't realise the lengths the companies go to to hide their installations.

Gary · Sep 16, 2009, 10:33:16

Quote from: Rik on Sep 15, 2009, 18:45:20
Cost?

But other countries do it, so why can't BT? I think I said that already

Cost is only prohibitive if you don't think laterally, so many countries used the sewer systems to run fibre as the infrastructure was there, I'm sure there would be ways of doing this here as well

Colin Burns · Sep 22, 2009, 17:28:42

would you really want to upset the inhabitants of rats...

then of course there is the fact that are sewer system in this country is probably completly nackered as they dont repair them till they cave in

Rik · Sep 22, 2009, 17:30:35

I was talking to a BT engineer this morning. They are, apparently, getting an increase in rat damage to cables at distribution points which, in Milton Keynes, are often put in bin cupboards...

Colin Burns · Sep 22, 2009, 18:03:09

as the local councils budgets get reduced its going to happen more and more.

Rik · Sep 22, 2009, 18:03:37

Nice thought for all of us, Colin.

Colin Burns · Sep 22, 2009, 18:05:01

Yup should be interesting to see how long my Contract at work will last due to evil cut backs

Sebby · Sep 22, 2009, 19:34:26

Bin cupboards... Bright idea.

Technical Ben · Sep 22, 2009, 21:38:57

It's hard to make most things rat proof. But most good seals/doors and brick walls would do. Things I guess BT cannot afford, or don't think are worth investing in, like the infrastructure in general.

Simon · Sep 22, 2009, 21:45:59

Are you sure they're rats, not hamsters? Filligree, even?

Sebby · Sep 22, 2009, 22:38:39

axisofevil · Sep 22, 2009, 22:39:01

Quote from: Rik on Sep 22, 2009, 17:30:35
I was talking to a BT engineer this morning. They are, apparently, getting an increase in rat damage to cables at distribution points which, in Milton Keynes, are often put in bin cupboards...

They put rats in bins?

Rik · Sep 23, 2009, 09:29:00

It saves them having to find their own way in.

Technical Ben · Sep 23, 2009, 18:04:14

I suppose BT are thinking forward... putting the copper in the bin ahead of time. :I'll get my coat smiley:

Rik · Sep 23, 2009, 18:06:27

dujas · Oct 08, 2009, 14:09:14

For those in Muswell Hill lucky enough to not have their cabinet planning application rejected, it's quite a speed boost:

QuoteThat first customer was an existing TalkTalk subscriber and it took us about three hours to convert their current copper-based ADSL connection to fibre-based VDSL one. Obviously, it's only been live for a few days but the lucky first customer has gone from an average download speed of 5.3Mbps to 32Mbps! Encouraged by this result, we went on to connect two more customers with another following later today.

Source

Rik · Oct 08, 2009, 14:10:43

Gimme, gimme.

Sebby · Oct 09, 2009, 13:41:23

I didn't know you were a Britney Spears fan, Rik.