playstation

Baz · Sep 04, 2009, 20:31:58

I have my system set up wired to the router,wireless for two laptops and wired to my sons system upstairs in his bedroom.Have tried it wireless to his system but it was slow sometimes.

he also has his PS3 up there and likes to go online with that too sometimes.Have also tried that wireless and again it tended to be a tad flakey but is spot on with the wired.Question I have is.....is it possible to run the computer and PS3 using one cable running from router to his room using a splitter or something.

Glenn · Sep 04, 2009, 20:59:11

Baz, you could put a hub or switch up there, something like this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/54793

Lance · Sep 04, 2009, 22:25:22

Or if you have A spare router, turn of dchp on it or look for a bridge mode and use that.

mrapoc · Sep 04, 2009, 23:28:10

i turned off dhcp on my speedtouch 580 and now use that as a switch/hub.

hubs are generally cheaper but routers/switches are more intelligent, which is probably better if you want to stream hd content from the pc to ps3 (very easy to do using something like tversity!)

Sebby · Sep 05, 2009, 00:41:20

As mentioned, you need a switch - just something cheap and cheerful will work fine. You run a cable from the router to the uplink on the switch, then use 2 of the ports to go to the PC and PS3.

For example:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/35437

Bill · Sep 05, 2009, 10:38:50

Quote from: Sebby on Sep 05, 2009, 00:41:20something cheap and cheerful will work fine.

Even cheaper:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-Es-3205p-5port-100mbps-Switch/dp/B001R52CTY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1252143208&sr=8-2

Baz · Sep 05, 2009, 11:36:15

very interesting stuff guys thanks very much.looks like just what I need.so its from the main router downstairs > switch upstairs > to PC and to PS3. cables needed for this bit?

daft question, do they need a power supply

Glenn · Sep 05, 2009, 11:50:08

Cat5 cable between router and switch Baz, yes they will come with power supplies, so another socket will be needed.

Baz · Sep 05, 2009, 11:56:09

thanks Glenn. do you lose any thing on performance, speed etc

Rik · Sep 05, 2009, 11:56:53

You shouldn't do, Baz.

Glenn · Sep 05, 2009, 12:02:37

Like Rik says there should be no loss of performance over a short distance, unless your son's room is over 100m away.

Rik · Sep 05, 2009, 12:03:44

Baz wishes.

Baz · Sep 05, 2009, 19:24:13

Quote from: Rik on Sep 05, 2009, 12:03:44
Baz wishes.

nah hes a good lad really

Rik · Sep 05, 2009, 19:29:45

Loyal father to the last, eh Baz?

Baz · Sep 05, 2009, 19:34:56

what do you mean Rik

Rik · Sep 05, 2009, 19:37:36

Moi?

Baz · Sep 06, 2009, 13:22:12

whats the difference between a switch and an unmanaged switch. does it need to be compatible with my router which is a netgear DG834PN

and difference between switch and hub

Rik · Sep 06, 2009, 13:24:59

Have a look at this, Baz:

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/hubsw.htm

Baz · Sep 06, 2009, 13:28:33

ah yes very good Rik Thanks

Ray · Sep 06, 2009, 13:34:03

I've been using a 5 port version of one of these on my network for around 2 years, Baz, it connects 2 PCs and my WHS at Gigabit speeds and my Laptop at 100mb.

Baz · Sep 06, 2009, 15:25:43

looks good Ray and as I like netgear I may look into getting one of these.As i posted earlier does it need to be compatible with my router or will it be ok

Rik · Sep 06, 2009, 15:32:15

It will be OK, Baz.

Ray · Sep 06, 2009, 15:34:18

Should be fine with a Netgear router, Baz, I've used mine with a Netgear DG834 and it's currently working fine with a Speedtouch 585.

Baz · Sep 06, 2009, 15:39:47

thanks you.just looking at them now on amazon, not a bad price too

Baz · Sep 07, 2009, 17:48:16

another question on this.Do i need CAT5 cables.I have a cable Ive used before but cant remember what for.it says on the cable that its a patch cable but looking at the ends the wires are different sequence

Baz · Sep 07, 2009, 18:20:08

Quote from: Ray on Sep 06, 2009, 13:34:03
I've been using a 5 port version of one of these on my network for around 2 years, Baz, it connects 2 PCs and my WHS at Gigabit speeds and my Laptop at 100mb.

looking at these Ray, they say data transfer is at 1 Gbps, is this with all other equipment, routers etc or only ones at the same spec as the switch.Would it not be worth getting one if the rest of my gear is not same spec as this, if that makes sense

Rik · Sep 07, 2009, 18:21:00

Cat5e or Cat6 if it's a gigabit switch, Baz.

Ray · Sep 07, 2009, 19:16:19

Quote from: Baz on Sep 07, 2009, 18:20:08
looking at these Ray, they say data transfer is at 1 Gbps, is this with all other equipment, routers etc or only ones at the same spec as the switch.Would it not be worth getting one if the rest of my gear is not same spec as this, if that makes sense

These switches will automatically run at the appropriate speed for each individual network adaptor, Baz, ie if your one adaptor is 100Mb the switch will run at that speed for that card and say one of them is Gigabit then that one will run at gigabit speed.

I've got a combination of 100mb and gigabit on my switch.

Baz · Sep 07, 2009, 19:54:39

cheers, so how do i find out what adapter he has in his system

Ray · Sep 07, 2009, 20:09:21

Quote from: Baz on Sep 07, 2009, 19:54:39
cheers, so how do i find out what adapter he has in his system

Open up Network Connections in Control Panel, right click on the connection icon you are using and then select Status from the displayed menu, it will tell you the speed on there.

Baz · Sep 11, 2009, 17:24:55

well my son ordered the switch and cables early this week and they arrived today.up and running in less than 15 mins, both computer and PS3 running together ok so far.

did notice a slight difference in a speed test on the computer strangely after fitting the switch, it was slower

does it matter which ports the cables go in, priority etc

got this one from amazon.

Rik · Sep 11, 2009, 17:27:48

It's more likely coincidence than the changes, Baz. Keep an eye on it over a few days.

Ray · Sep 11, 2009, 17:30:00

Did you want a Gigabit switch, Baz? because the one you've linked to isn't, it's only a 10/100, if thats what you want it will be fine.

Baz · Sep 11, 2009, 17:31:17

yeah told him to Rik thanks. Actually just been up to his room and the switch itself is in fact the standard netgear white colour not the one in that link.Dont know if its any thing special the Platinum Series cant find anything on the site but also cant find a white model.

The site says 100 Mbps rate but on the box it states performance as 1Gbps what does that mean

Baz · Sep 11, 2009, 17:32:10

thanks Ray we did go for the 10/100 one the card speed in his machine is 100 when we checked

Rik · Sep 11, 2009, 17:35:38

Quote from: Baz on Sep 11, 2009, 17:31:17
The site says 100 Mbps rate but on the box it states performance as 1Gbps what does that mean

Can you give us the exact model number from the unit, Baz, and we can check.

Baz · Sep 11, 2009, 17:38:48

its FS605 v3 on the switch which matches what we ordered apart from this Platinum Series

Rik · Sep 11, 2009, 17:43:28

It's definitely a 10/100 switch, Baz:

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/DesktopSwitches/FS605.aspx

I suspect the gigabit reference is to total throughput for the unit, as distinct from each port.

Baz · Sep 11, 2009, 17:44:47

thats the one Rik the box is shaded like in that link but only the first column

Steve · Sep 11, 2009, 18:54:58

Quote from: Rik on Sep 11, 2009, 17:43:28
It's definitely a 10/100 switch, Baz:

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/DesktopSwitches/FS605.aspx

I suspect the gigabit reference is to total throughput for the unit, as distinct from each port.

I presume 5 x 100 ports @full duplex = 1Gb