Google Chrome

[Gary]

I dont have any isues with IE8 but its just not something I like to use often, different styles. and FF for me does things in a better way, but we all have our favourites

[Ray]

Was it holding a placard?

Not that I noticed, Rik, but I came close to doing this  

[Rik]

I dont have any isues with IE8 but its just not something I like to use often, different styles. and FF for me does things in a better way, but we all have our favourites

I think it's a bit like word processors, they all do the job, but some feel more comfortable to us than others.

[Rik]

Not that I noticed, Rik, but I came close to doing this  

Can we all watch?

[Ray]

By all means, Rik, 

[Rik]

I'll go for CCTV then. 

[Ray]

 

[Ann]

If you are on a website you want as a favourite, just drag the star icon next to the address bar onto the strip of blue directly under the address bar. You can store you most common bookmarks on there.

I've got hundreds... they won't all fit    I turned that bar off in IE and I don't want it in Chrome either.

[Sebby]

Interesting point about IE being intuitive. But it makes me wonder whether it's intuitive or it's just what we know.

[Lance]

Picking up your point about ram, Gary... whilst agree it's there to be used, surely if FF is using lots more ram than something else performing the same job, it must be doing something inefficiently? 

[Rik]

Interesting point about IE being intuitive. But it makes me wonder whether it's intuitive or it's just what we know.

It comes down to the latter, Seb. When Windows first came out, we had to make the transformation from CLU to GUI, and everything seemed harder to do. Now, we can open any Windows program and find our way around the basics. The differences come with the subtle variations between apps, and it's this range of differences that we think of as intuitive or not. The more closely the app follows Windows standards, the more we will think it intuitive.

[Ann]

It is not only what we know and how we've come to expect things to be, we should also be able to guess where things might be.  But I have found out that there is no page preview or page set up in Chrome so it's not a matter of me not knowing where the functions are, they simply are not there.  It makes it unusable for me.

Also the layout of a page should be useful.  To have the bookmark list way over to the right where it would normally be hidden by my TV window is not at all useful for me.   

[Gary]

Picking up your point about ram, Gary... whilst agree it's there to be used, surely if FF is using lots more ram than something else performing the same job, it must be doing something inefficiently? 

I see your point Lance but FF is doing a lot in the background these days with phishing and malware protection, and you have the virus can on download, thats more than browsers used to do, pop up blo cking, checking for updated lists of dogy sites etc. Also if you have the default 90 days history kept that slows it down and uses more ram, because it has this huge library to plow through and store, we expect a lot of protection and help from our browsers but complain when they use ram, yes maybe FF coding is not perfect, but IE8 uses a fair amount of ram as does Opera, they all have so many features, they have become more than a front end to the internet and thats I think where the issue lays possibly 

[esh]

Some time in 2005 Firefox updated from version 1.5 to 2.0 on my laptop. Suddenly it started taking 30 seconds to start, which is when I stopped using it. Strangely enough, I've been using Opera since then. I don't have any illusions it's that much better than Firefox, and the startup issue is probably fixed now. But I have no real reason to *not* use Opera now either. I think so many browsers do a good job these days. Hell, I don't even mind IE7/8 that much (5/6 were terrible however).

[Gary]

SRWare Iron is compiled from chrome and seems to be well liked, it does not have some of the privacy issues that Chrome has as well, see attached url http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php

[Ann]

Interesting point about IE being intuitive. But it makes me wonder whether it's intuitive or it's just what we know.

I've been thinking about this while I've been surfing the web... I know a bit sad  but still.. I suddenly thought that the things I use that differ and can be compared are forums.  I've been on several forums with different layouts and yet when I want to find something it's usually pretty easy to find because it's fairly intuitive.  It's certainly not familiarity because the layouts can be very different but still with a brief look around they are mostly all easy to use.  Drupal is fairly awful but the rest I've used are fine.

So no, intuitiveness and familiarity cannot be confused.

[Sebby]

In that respect, I'd say you're right, but when comparing browsers, I don't think there's anything particularly intuitive about IE. I really do believe it's just because IE is what most people know.