Microsoft Security Essentials

Started by gizmo71, Oct 01, 2009, 10:11:14

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gizmo71

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Installed it last night onto my (Windows 7) netbook - seems okay, hasn't slowed the machine to a crawl.

No real idea whether it's as effective as AVG, but then I've never had huge confidence in any anti-virus software given the difficulty in actually testing it thouroughly oneself. :laugh:

Once my AVG licenses expire in November I will probably just use MSE instead.
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Rik

I noticed this was coming yesterday. I have a reluctance to trust MS when it comes to security apps, though. Given their track record on fixing security faults, I'm not sure that they would be totally on the ball.
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Sebby

After OneCare, I don't think I'd even want to give this a try!

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Rik

Thanks, Bob. I'm still wary of trusting MS though.
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Gary

MS do not fare well in AV comparatives though
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Gary

Damned, if you do damned if you don't

bobleslie

Know how you feel, Rik.  ;)

MSE, so it has been alleged, is based on the same core scanning engine used by Microsoft's Forefront line of products for which businesses pay good money.

Forefront is a proven certified antivirus product. Forefront Security received the latest CESG Claims Tested Mark (CCTM) award for integrity protection and also achieved the ICSA Labs Certification, VB100 award, and West Coast Labs' Checkmark Certification, meeting key criteria for protection against malware.

Forefront Client Security was named a finalist for the Info Security 2008 Global Excellence in anti malware solutions.

Microsoft are much more into security than most people realise.




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Rik

The only question, Bob, is whose? ;)
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zappaDPJ

The first reports I've read speak rather highly of it. So much so I'm tempted to give it a try as I'm currently using Avira (free) which works very well but the nag screens are very disruptive.
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Gary

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Oct 02, 2009, 19:06:39
The first reports I've read speak rather highly of it. So much so I'm tempted to give it a try as I'm currently using Avira (free) which works very well but the nag screens are very disruptive.
First reports are best left as that, people who download it say hey its great but we need to see how it works in the real world under current malware, the previous MS security app faired poorly in detection so I would stand back and watch and wait a while to see, but personally I would never trust MS with my security, after all I don't even trust their OS to do the job  ;D
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zappaDPJ

I've been running it for a week and I wouldn't have known it was there until today when it detected and quarantined 'Trojan:JS/FakeXPA'. I've already had this one sail past a subscription AV on another PC. My first impressions are in line with what others are saying. It's lightweight, unobtrusive, easy to use and appears more importantly to have a high detection rate. In fact most of the comparison tests I've seen have had nothing bad to say about it.

It is still early days but based on my limited experience so far I'd recommend it.
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Lance

Sounds like ms have made a step in the right direction!
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Gary

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Oct 09, 2009, 18:17:40
I've been running it for a week and I wouldn't have known it was there until today when it detected and quarantined 'Trojan:JS/FakeXPA'. I've already had this one sail past a subscription AV on another PC. My first impressions are in line with what others are saying. It's lightweight, unobtrusive, easy to use and appears more importantly to have a high detection rate. In fact most of the comparison tests I've seen have had nothing bad to say about it.

It is still early days but based on my limited experience so far I'd recommend it.
just because it caught one trojan that slipped past a paid for AV means nothing, no AV is ever 100% and it could have been a false positive or course. The thing is you still have to go through swings and hoops to download it, and we all know there are sadly illegal copies of windows out there, they need protecting to protect us, also we have no idea how it will behave when attacked by malware, I reserve judgement for  few months after black hats make a target out of it, but at least MS are doing something positive, you are still better off with a tool like sandboxie or returnil and a in the cloud type of behavioural detector like Prevx or threatfire, the day of the basic AV that keeps its signatures on your pc is slowly fading as threats evolve to fast for them to keep up, a case for instance is rougue AV malware, they change by the hour, and unless MS has built the best heuristics on the planet I would look elsewhere, the same goes for most AV's on Windows machines, they are buggy, take to many resources. The old saying, don't count your chickens before they are hatched comes to mind, and as far as reviews go, no one review uses a defined universal technique to test, apart from someone like AV comparatives, lest wait to see what the on demand and pro active tests say about it before we all jump ship into the hands of the people that created the monster they are now trying to protect.
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zappaDPJ

Where it really counts I wouldn't rely on an AV product from any company. I use kernel level, process checking software which so far has proved 100% effective. I'm not saying MS Security Essentials is flawless, the fact that's only available to those with a legitimate copy of Windows is a flaw in my opinion but it does appear to have some benefits over similar products.
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