COD MW2 ruined?

mrapoc · Oct 18, 2009, 13:09:58

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There will be no dedicated servers for the pc, confirmed on bash and slash live cast with 402. That sucks for pc players. Gonna be listen servers through iw net

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• IW has control of the game
• IWnet servers will host multiplayer
• DLC will be a charged item for PC
• No dedicated servers
• Matchmaking system used to play with similarly ranked players
• VAC instead of PB
• Semi-capable password servers
• Semi-capable ad-hoc servers
• Competitive play is dead
• MW2 mods would not be possible
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Myst · Oct 18, 2009, 22:25:43

There's gonna be a lot of p***ed off PC players about.

Also a lot of servers not going to be rented on the back of this!
I have had a dedi box since the original came out, will be looking again at this i think, or adding other content to what we have instead

Niall · Oct 18, 2009, 22:43:37

You could see the charged content thing coming a mile off when Windows Live started supporting PC games, previously only Xbox Live based, and most are under Steam.

zimmerframe · Oct 19, 2009, 12:46:58

There is an on-line petition that can be signed, (whether it does much good of course)

http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

I am aghast at this. I just don't understand their thinking.

psp83 · Oct 19, 2009, 14:33:38

I used to play CoD on the PC but i only play it on the xbox now. I've still got all the older CoD's for the PC.

Dedicated servers for PC's should be left in imo. Its going to kill the LAN type comps. But i dont think IW care or will listen.

Lance · Oct 19, 2009, 22:59:58

I used to play a lot of the various MoH titles (seriously, a lot!) and moved on to CoD and CoD2 later at which time I got a life!

I can't believe that the dedicated servers are being left out, but can't help but wonder if some chargable product will cone along later down the line.

psp83 · Oct 19, 2009, 23:09:40

or are they doing this for the future of gaming? People who play on the consoles can also go againts pc players

Niall · Oct 19, 2009, 23:18:08

They've obviously been planning this for years. You only have to look at the games brought out in the last year to see that they've all got a system based around how consoles run FPS games. While I think there is a very strong market for consoles, I don't agree that they should blatantly alienate the PC gamer. It's irony if nothing else.

I don't really play many games anymore, other than RTS games, but I did play FPS games until my eyes bled at one point! I used to run my own servers, was in two clans helping them admin those and also was the dep head admin for Jolt CS too.

It all started going down the pan with more and more people using cheats, and then when console FPS games were getting a release first, or had their own version of a game released that the PC never saw. Then you had the idea of in game advertising, gamespy arcade, and the final nail in the coffin was Gears of war. That massively over rated game with nice graphics on a console made a lot of mugs play on consoles instead. When the companies saw the amount of teens (mainly) that wanted to play FPS on consoles you saw games on the PC that only had better graphics but the same interfaces that smacked of console layouts.

Personally I think you're insane if you play an FPS game on a console. The joypad is not for FPS. For shame!

Anyway, stuff, rant, whine, etc. So ner.

psp83 · Oct 20, 2009, 00:09:25

Quote from: Niall on Oct 19, 2009, 23:18:08
Personally I think you're insane if you play an FPS game on a console. The joypad is not for FPS. For shame!

Its the fact you have to get used to it. when i got an xbox 360 with CoD 4, i hated it, i even went back to the PC version for a while.. but i gave the console another go and found it fun after getting used to aiming again.

I would never play on a console other than for fun, if i wanted to play a FPS in a competition, PC wins everytime. You will never beat a keyboard and mouse for a FPS (i used to be sniper in most games, something that is alot harder to do on a console)

That reminds me. I must find my CoD4 PC version to install after this reformat.

psp83 · Oct 20, 2009, 00:11:15

What i think IW should do.. delay the game for abit (more) (its delayed for PC already right?) give it dedicated servers and match making, best of both worlds..

vitriol · Oct 20, 2009, 22:11:04

pretty much agree with everything already said.

I use my PC for FPS games, I wouldnt even try to play a FPS on the Xbox.

Way to go IW I for one will not buy your game. I dont want to play in your ******* multiplayer environment.

/rant

Myst · Oct 21, 2009, 18:53:20

Ditto to the above.

vitriol · Oct 21, 2009, 21:00:27

oops didnt realise that the word I used would activate the swear filter. It's a legitimate word !

zimmerframe · Oct 22, 2009, 13:48:13

As much as I want to play the single player game, this will have ruined the long term enjoyment of this game for me. I am seriously considering cancelling the pre-order that I have for it.

Dedicated servers have been a part of FPS on-line play for many years. I've played recently hosted servers, (Call of Juarez - Bound in blood) A good game whose long term use is spoilt by an incomplete on-line capability. They destroy the camaraderie that is built playing a game as part of a team. Why dumb down just because consol players cant have dedicated servers?

psp83 · Oct 22, 2009, 13:59:33

Quote from: zimmerframe on Oct 22, 2009, 13:48:13
Why dumb down just because consol players cant have dedicated servers?

Consoles could have dedicated servers if they were willing to put some time into doing it for consoles.

MS has or will be releasing a program where you can run dedicated servers on your home machine for some console games i've heard.

zappaDPJ · Oct 22, 2009, 17:05:37

Here's some feedback from Infinity Ward, probably not what anyone wanted to hear

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/modern-warfare-2/pc/game-features/infinity-ward-responds-to-modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-petition/
http://kotaku.com/5385941/modern-warfare-2-pcs-iwnet-an-improvement-over-dedicated-servers-says-iw

zimmerframe · Oct 26, 2009, 14:00:35

Well, I just cancelled my pre-order. Much as I want to play the game, its long term use is ruined

Lance · Oct 26, 2009, 22:10:20

I wonder how many people will be doing the same.

Barndog · Oct 27, 2009, 10:54:53

Ok let me get this right, i have been looking forward to mw2 for ages now, have it pr-ordered for the pc, does this mean there will be no muliplayer available? what are dedicated servers anyway, i have cod4 and 5 which i play everyday, i will be gutted if theres no multiplayer

zimmerframe · Oct 27, 2009, 13:24:13

Quote from: Barndog on Oct 27, 2009, 10:54:53
Ok let me get this right, i have been looking forward to mw2 for ages now, have it pr-ordered for the pc, does this mean there will be no muliplayer available? what are dedicated servers anyway, i have cod4 and 5 which i play everyday, i will be gutted if theres no multiplayer

It means that you can play multiplayer on-line but you dont get to pick on which server you want to play. You will be "matched" against similarly ranked players every time you go on-line by the master server host.

In CoD4 and CoD5, you will see a server list and you can pick which one you want to play on. If you like it, you can have it as a favourite and go back to it time and again. You wont have that with dedicated servers. There will be no chance of making on-line battle friends.

For clans who want to play competative or freindly matches against each other, this is also no longer an option. Infinity Ward have killed the on-line community for this particular game by taking this action

Barndog · Oct 27, 2009, 16:22:24

That is really sad to hear, i will be cancelling my order for sure, also will players not be able to pick a game type like teamdeath match etc.?

Supanova · Oct 27, 2009, 17:51:03

You will be able to enter your preferences for the server e.g. mode - team deathmatch, difficulty - hardcore.

To be honest the matchmaking system doesn't bother me toooooooo much as long as I can define the maximum number of players on the server (I hate playing with more than about 16).

My MASSIVE gripe about IWnet is the fact that mods are no longer going to be possible. I play Promod in CoD4, a competitive mod that removes stupid weapons like semi-automatic sniper rifles, gives everyone the same perks (SP & Bandoleer) and makes some balancing changes to allow for league play. If CoD4MW2 does not have such a mode, then competitive play will simply not be possible

Barndog · Oct 27, 2009, 19:31:35

Thanks Supanova, ermmm i might just go ahead and get it anyway now, as long as your able to pick what mode you want to play in, will you still be able to pick and choose your favourite weapon

Wags · Oct 29, 2009, 19:43:26

Well, I cancelled my pre-order for the game when I heard the news and all the members of my COD Clan did the same. Infact, everyone I 'know' from various clans have cancelled. We host several COD4 servers, a COD 2 server and COD WAW server. MW2 is not going to be a clan game or game for those not in clans, but who like to choose the server they play on or like the way a server is run, mods etc. When I signed the petition (for what it is worth) there were 3700 sigs, now there are over 168,000..!

I am looking forward to Battlefield. Bad Company 2 which comes out in March 2010. The developer DICE has made the most of the debacle with MW2 and have gone out of their way to promise full support for dedicated servers and PC only content e.g. you can go prone on the PC but not consoles.

Myst · Oct 29, 2009, 20:04:18

Same with our lot wags; like you we run a dedi running 4/waw as well as other stuff certainly be looking to fill the space with other games - poss l4d2 when it comes out, going off the popularity of the 1st one. Just hope they improve the server browser on it though as thats its weakest issue