Download allowance problems

gazzthompson · Jan 03, 2010, 22:34:19

Hi, new member here. been with IDnet now for about 2 weeks now and i have to say, loving it

problem is, we are downloading much higher than i expected. We have 2 computers, Laptop and Ps3 connected to the net and it looks like we are easily going to break the 30GB download limit. problem is , it looks like we will break the 60GB download limit. This is all done with pure web surfing and gaming.

no "hard" downloading (well, one mod patch at 2gb), their was a massive steam sale on recently but i didn't want to download anything cause we was raping the limit as it was. Last month we use 18GB and it says "12" at the bottom, that mean 18gb in 12 days? if so thats on average 1.5, x30 = 45 so maybe we can stick with the 60GB package. An 80gb package would be perfect

Simon · Jan 03, 2010, 23:07:10

I'm assuming you can't get ADSL2+ (up to 24Mb), Gazz? That would give you a 90Gb download allowance. If not, then 60Gb is the max on, er, Max (up to 8Mb), unless you're going to start talking business packages, but if you go over the 60Gb, it's still only £1 per Gb, as far as I am aware.

gazzthompson · Jan 03, 2010, 23:15:12

Yeah cant get ADSL2+

got this month to figure out my real month allowance, can any one confirm my monthly report from last month (which wasn't a full month) with 18GB download and "12" at the bottom means 12 days?

Simon · Jan 03, 2010, 23:21:37

Sorry, where are you seeing '12'? I'm looking at my own Bandwidth Usage page in my IDNet Customer Account portal, and can't see any figure like that. If you're using the RSS feed, then I can't help, but I'm sure someone else will.

gazzthompson · Jan 03, 2010, 23:26:32

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/garythompson/idnet.jpg?t=1262561099

dose that mean the downloading was done over 12 days, or?

Simon · Jan 03, 2010, 23:30:37

Yeah, I believe it is the 12th month, as in Dec. When you've been here a while, it will start to look like this:

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Glenn · Jan 03, 2010, 23:39:19

What does the daily breakdown reveal?

gazzthompson · Jan 03, 2010, 23:51:00

This month's , which only included s 2 days

Lance · Jan 04, 2010, 08:08:06

Take a look at the rss feed which will give the complete breakdown.

With pure web surfing and gaming, assuming moderate use of YouTube and iplayer, 30gb should be plenty.

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 08:52:46

Definitely that 12 is the month, Gaz, ie December. The usage appears to be until Christmas Eve, it was free after that.

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 17:06:29

Quote from: Lance on Jan 04, 2010, 08:08:06
Take a look at the rss feed which will give the complete breakdown.

With pure web surfing and gaming, assuming moderate use of YouTube and iplayer, 30gb should be plenty.

the thing is, we are averaging 2.2GB~ a day so far which will get our monthly allowance to 66GB at this rate. This is a real pitty as i dont want to leave because we cant stay in the allowance, can we change package mid month to the 60GB one as we are going to blitz this 30GB package?

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 17:09:16

You can, Gazz.

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 17:14:28

Because right now, it will be cheaper to go slightly over the 60gb one rather than going alot over the 30gb one.

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 17:15:26

Billing runs from the 1st, so ask and you'll be fine.

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 17:20:19

Ok thanks, ill give it a good week to find a more accurate daily average. but at this rate we might have to bail from this ISP which is a real pitty as this is best internet we have had in a long while. a 80GB service would be a god send

Steve · Jan 04, 2010, 17:59:22

You could think about how not to have multiple downloads of the same files i.e updates, service packs etc. It would need a bit of discipline and time. I do it with the Mac, one OS update is copied to the other machine rather than downloaded again.

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 18:05:34

We have a home network LAN , so when it comes to gaming stuff i LAN it rather than re-downloading for other comp etc. but as i said, we are going to rape it by the looks of it with pure surfing. a new Mod update come out and its gunna cost me to download it.

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 18:07:52

Straightforward surfing and email should be no more than 3GB/month/machine. Is anyone running P2P, iPlayer or lost of YouTube?

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 18:19:22

Yes both youtube and iplayer (mainly youtube) are used alot. as for P2P, just gaming.

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 18:20:53

That's where the bandwidth is likely to be going then, Gazz.

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 18:28:52

Yup, which is a real pitty as i will probably need to look for a new ISP and this one has been so good.

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 18:30:16

When does your exchange go WBC?

gazzthompson · Jan 04, 2010, 19:09:55

not sure,

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/EAWTN

if that helps?

Rik · Jan 04, 2010, 19:11:51

No date, so almost certainly a long wait.

sobranie · Jan 04, 2010, 20:14:14

Quote from: gazzthompson on Jan 04, 2010, 19:09:55
not sure,

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/EAWTN

if that helps?

Samknows is so far out of date it's not worth looking at I'm afraid.
Try here instead;

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/btavailability.html

or alternatively, check out your package details at IDNet which will give you an expected adsl2 date.

Simon · Jan 04, 2010, 22:49:02

Thanks Rick.

colonelsun · Jan 05, 2010, 23:11:08

Hi everyone, the stranger returns.

I'm having the same problem. When it was just me in the house my 30GB allowance was fine, heck i was so pleased with just getting a connection to the web....a flashing light would have kept me happy for hours.

But things change. As mentioned last year my mother was mugged and a few weeks later they returned to her house for money, she hasn't much but they decided to take it out on her, if you know what i mean? So after she came out of hospital she moved in with me and along came the grandkids for half a day every day. I have no problem with that....they keep her company and they make her feel safe...but they obviously have to do homework and today's kids do it via a computer and internet connection. With one of them studying astrometrics and nuclear science he's using a lot of bandwidth just to present a paper twice a week. it's all getting out of hand and i now find myself in a position i did not want to be in....leaving the only ISP i love.

I don't want to find myself receiving e -mails alerting me i'm close to exceeding my monthly allowance and yet the extra GB's are nothing financially.....around a pound a Gig is it?

I was just wondering if IDNET have any plans in 2010 to increase the download allowances? With web pages getting richer in content and video players seemingly common place... just downloading basic text soon adds up when you're counting downloads. I would certainly reconsider my options if allowances were going to get a rethink....i'm really trying my best not to sound like an ungrateful customer.

I'm a rural resident so BT is unlikely to upgrade my exchange to ADSL2 although i did receive broadband, after the dial up period, the same time as everyone else.

Steve · Jan 05, 2010, 23:21:08

Does http://www.samknows.com/broadband/search.php give you a date for ADSL2+ (21CN WBC rfs) as the allowances are more generous for the same package.

Simon · Jan 05, 2010, 23:44:33

Hi Dave, nice to see you

It might also be worth checking the ThinkBroadband checker, as it's sometimes more up to date than Samknows. It might even be
worth asking IDNet.

Gary · Jan 06, 2010, 01:27:23

Good to see you again

Rik · Jan 06, 2010, 09:43:59

Hi Dave

Welcome back. I'm sure IDNet will be reviewing their packages this year, once they know the effect of the BT price cuts.

colonelsun · Jan 06, 2010, 20:23:07

Hi and thankyou everyone for replying.

I'm sorry i just vanished from the board without saying anything but i'm now a 24 hour nurse for my mother 5 days a week and try to run a business the other 2 days, i barely get chance for a sit down with a coffee and a fag let alone contribute to a forum.

Apparently my exchange has a 21CN PSTN switch over date target and it's called Q4:2010....which i presume is B.T code and customers aren't meant to know. And from what i've read Q4:2010 isn't a date but an aspiration anyway....maybe i'm wrong.

To be perfectly honest if my exchange was unbundled there's only one company i'd sign up with anyway for broadband, IDNET. No one else has ever treated me like a bona fide customer and delivered on what they promised, i'd be stupid to risk that and go with another provider.

Simon · Jan 06, 2010, 21:26:46

If that's off Samknows, it's the 21CN WBC status you're after, Dave. Q4 2010 means the fourth quarter of 2010.

colonelsun · Jan 06, 2010, 23:50:27

Simon you're a star!!

So it's around October then, that's if BT remember we're still here.

It's a shame IDNET don't have some kind of pre paid method of storing GBs and we could use them as we go over our limit. I realise the administration would be a nightmare but that's why they run a broadband business and i build houses.LOL.

In the meantime i'll have to take another look at the BT resell packages. I wonder if IDNET accept credit card payments for subscriptions?

Simon · Jan 07, 2010, 00:08:44

So, the WBC date is also Q4, Dave? That's a fair way off, I guess.

IDNet do accept credit card payments (CCAs), but most of us prefer to use direct debit, as they are easier to cancel, if the necessity arose.

Rik · Jan 07, 2010, 09:00:28

That is an aspirational date, Dave, so look more towards December than October.

DarkStar · Jan 07, 2010, 16:41:10

I would take the SamKnows info with a pinch of salt. According to SamKnows my exchange was WBC enabled on 31.05.09 but it wasn't. According to IDNet it is due to switch in Feb 2010 - guess who I believe. I gave up on SamKnows because most of the info for my exchange has been way out for a long time, but of course it depends where/who they get their info from, some of their info may be correct but certainly not for my exchange.

Rik · Jan 07, 2010, 16:41:55

I agree, Ian, the site is not as useful as it used to be.

gazzthompson · Jan 07, 2010, 17:25:33

How do i check my exchange on Idnet?

Rik · Jan 07, 2010, 17:26:31

Phone or email support (assuming you are not greeted by a yellow banner when you log in).

colonelsun · Jan 11, 2010, 22:52:22

Quote from: Rik on Jan 07, 2010, 09:00:28
That is an aspirational date, Dave, so look more towards December than October.

Yeah i thought it might be. I find the whole ADSL V ADSL 2 argument so criminal in a country that seems to be slipping back on everything....if we slip anymore we'll be 50 years behind the rest of the world in the broadband market. How can it be that in the year 2010 those people lucky enough to be deemed worthy enough for LLU attention are paying up to 50% less for their broadband connection than those living out in the country and of absolutely no commercial interest to any company?

colonelsun · Jan 11, 2010, 22:58:14

I managed to get 10 minutes to myself this morning and, after a brief look at the current IDNET ADSL packages, here's hoping they are subject to change very soon, i think i may have to look at the Home Super Max package, it gives double the download limit of the package i'm on. It's the peak/off peak thing that wories me though. The kids obviously want to be doing their homework etc between 4.00pm and maybe until 7.00pm, i can't see them warming to the idea of doing it in the wee hours of the morning.

Otherwise, and it breaks my heart and wallet to say this....it's hello to Namesco.