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Gary

The new Norton gets good reviews and has to be less buggy than Kaspersky at that detection level for a full suite. It comes out top of the bunch and now uninstalls cleanly, its just Norton of old that people remember having used a machine with it on it was light and fast, I did not like the toolbar though but that's a hold you hand feature which is not a bad thing for some PC users in this day and age as far as security goes, Norton by all accounts is not the beast it was it was re written completely. @ Lona it tells you it will take payments each year and you can stop that if you wish, it did on a friends machine and it tells you clearly when you install it, I think its wrong, but you have to read what's being said on installs.
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Sebby

Quote from: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 19:14:27
Oh my God, this does not mean I've got to buy a Mac does it   :o

A Mac would be no good for you because you wouldn't be able to waste time trying a new antivirus each week.

drummer

Quote from: Sebby on Jan 29, 2010, 22:12:22
A Mac would be no good for you because you wouldn't be able to waste time trying a new antivirus each week.
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To stay is death but to flee is life.

wecpcs

Quote from: Den on Jan 29, 2010, 17:55:23
I've taken the plunge and installed a 90 day free trial of Norton Internet Security 2010 on my desk top and left MSE on my lap top. If things stay as they are over the weekend I will purchase the special deal from PC world because to be honest I am so impressed with it. It runs so smoothly and does not encroach at all, it also checks emails and spyware and I have not had a single problem unlike Kaspersky.   ;D

I also find it excellent and as mine is up for renewal in about 45 days, I have just purchased another full retail copy (not upgrade) from WHSmiths online at half the cost of an online renewal from Symantec via the program, which I will be activating by entering my new number the day my current one finishes. If they bring out a new version during your current subscription to can get a free upgrade to the new version.

Ignore those Norton critics as they obviously have not tried Norton's recently, as I was indeed one of those myself, but the "proof of the pudding is in the eating". Sorry Rik for bringing food into it. Norton's have improved from the introduction of the 2009 version onwards. The 2008 version I was given free by a trade magazine I receive, used a lot of system resources as did other previous versions from as long as I can remember.

Colin

Gary

Quote from: drummer on Jan 29, 2010, 23:31:30
:zip:
Well you don't as of yet, there are trojans but few are far between, the main reason for an aV on OSX is to protect Winodows ysers from viruses that macs ca pass on, which as I see it is what a windows AV is for, but with the growth in Macs in the last year and the increased percentage a decent AV may be needed before the year is out. Integro x6 is now nasty and bloated, clamXav is not great, Eset are in beta and Kaspersky have a really buggy one out, most are needed if you run windows on your mac so as of right now for myself with FF, software firewall and hardware firewall adblock plus and no script I am not overly worried, but as i said that may change this year.
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somanyholes

ohh dear. When is this ever going to end. Do mac users not look at all the bugfixes they get (the ones that are published at least). Do they not see it is based on unix software that is full of holes. Do they expect to have a bouncing icon on their desktop saying you may have strange code on your system, How do they know they are so secure. Do they analyse their systems, sniff traffic. There used to be a day when mac users actually knew how to use the command line, most these days only know a pretty gui. Why are their systems so secure... Because they where told this. But of course we don't get worms! Yeah sure this must mean nothing can open sockets on your box or abuse one of the many buggy applications that exist on the platform. But we don't run as root! Of course i forgot that that are absolutely no ways that anyone can do local exploits on the system to do privilige esculation (sarcasm here).

If someone targets a mac user they are going to gain access if they are persistant/patient. Sure it may take a bit of work, but at least they can be sure that 99% of mac users will be blissfully unaware in that mac bubble that they live in.

Gary

Quote from: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 07:34:30
ohh dear. When is this ever going to end. Do mac users not look at all the bugfixes they get (the ones that are published at least). Do they not see it is based on unix software that is full of holes. Do they expect to have a bouncing icon on their desktop saying you may have strange code on your system, How do they know they are so secure. Do they analyse their systems, sniff traffic. There used to be a day when mac users actually knew how to use the command line, most these days only know a pretty gui. Why are their systems so secure... Because they where told this. But of course we don't get worms! Yeah sure this must mean nothing can open sockets on your box or abuse one of the many buggy applications that exist on the platform. But we don't run as root! Of course i forgot that that are absolutely no ways that anyone can do local exploits on the system to do privilige esculation (sarcasm here).

If someone targets a mac user they are going to gain access if they are persistant/patient. Sure it may take a bit of work, but at least they can be sure that 99% of mac users will be blissfully unaware in that mac bubble that they live in.

Sorry to be blunt but there are ways of saying things in a constructive manner, the above post is not one of those ways, it comes across as very condescending tbh.
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

somanyholes

sorry but condescending is what mac users are particularly good at, especially regarding security.......


Simon

Let's not get into another platform war, guys.  :no:
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Gary

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Quote from: somanyholes on Jan 30, 2010, 08:50:48
sorry but condescending is what mac users are particularly good at, especially regarding security.......


That is a huge generalisation, I take it you know every Mac user in the world and their security habits? Your post is rude it was not needed and comes across as being far from neutral and helpful considering your security status on the forum, but more about having a dig at Apple because of your personal preferences, as Simon says I do not wish to participate in a platform war. All I want to say is dont assume you know peoples security habits by the platform they use, especially when it appears it may stem from a personal dislike of Apple, and Mac users in general.

This is all I am going to say on the subject.
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Steve

Well that seems to have cleared the morning air,no more please!
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Den

I thought we set up a section on the forum for Mac users and not on a thread for Windows 7  :dunno:
Mr Music Man.

Rik

Let's leave it there guys...
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Den

 ;D ;)   Live and let live I say  8-)
Mr Music Man.

Gary

Quote from: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 10:42:25
;D ;)   Live and let live I say  8-)
Isn't that a bond film?  ;D
Damned, if you do damned if you don't

Den

I've just been to PC World and bought Norton Secuity 2019 Performance Pack which includes Norton Utilities reduced from £59.99 to £29.99 for three users. Looks like a good deal as someplaces are selling the version without utilities for the same price. Oddly Currys are selling the standard version at £59.99 but Norton 360 Ver 3 for £29.99 but not convince me that it was 2010 and not 2009 so I left it.    ;D
Mr Music Man.

Glenn

Quote from: Den on Jan 30, 2010, 13:39:03
I've just been to PC World and bought Norton Secuity 2019 Performance Pack which includes Norton Utilities reduced from £59.99 to £29.99 for three users. Looks like a good deal as someplaces are selling the version without utilities for the same price. Oddly Currys are selling the standard version at £59.99 but Norton 360 Ver 3 for £29.99 but not convince me that it was 2010 and not 2009 so I left it.    ;D

I know magzines have a habit of publishing early, but 9 years early  :eek4:
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Den

Told you it was a bargain  ;D

Any one used the latest Norton Utilities (what ever the year is) ?     :whistle:
Mr Music Man.