Australian ISP cleared of Copyright Charge

[john]

May be of interest to Idnet : iiNet cleared of copyright charge.

[Rik]

That's not to say a UK court would agree, of course, John, even if we would. Australia doesn't have a Mandy that I know of. 

[Gary]

That's not to say a UK court would agree, of course, John, even if we would. Australia doesn't have a Mandy that I know of. 

I could not see the Australians putting up with a Mandy somehow

[Rik]

I like to think so. Could we export him, do you think?

[Gary]

I like to think so. Could we export him, do you think?

We have in the past exported crooks that way, just saying 

[Rik]

We still do (the Bulger killers ).

[Simon]

Oh, I didn't know that.  Maxine Carr?

[Gary]

We still do (the Bulger killers ).

I didn't know that either, that's not right 

[Rik]

Don't know about Maxine Carr but the Bulger killers were given new identities and exported. That's not justice in my book.

[Simon]

Indeed not. 

[colonelsun]

We still do (the Bulger killers ).

We exported them? Never knew that.

[Rik]

Yup.

Lady Justice Butler-Sloss   

Do you remember February 1993 in England , when a young boy of 3 was taken from a Liverpool shopping centre by two 10-year-old boys?   
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only a second, Jon Venables took his hand and led him out of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson. They took  Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles, along the way stopping every now and again to torture the poor little boy who was crying constantly for his mummy.   
   
Finally they stopped at a railway track where they brutally kicked him, threw stones at him, rubbed paint in his eyes, pushed batteries up his anus and cut his fingers off with scissors. Other mutilations were inflicted but not reported in the press.   
   
N.B. :- Remember, a 3year old cannot possibly defend themselves against a 10 year old, let alone of 2 them.

   
What these two boys did was so horrendous that Jamie's mother was forbidden to identify his body..

They then left his beaten small body on railway tracks so a train could run him over to hide the mess  they had created. These two boys, even being boys, understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to  make it look like an accident.   
   
This week Lady Justice Butler-Sloss has awarded the two boys (now men), anonymity for the rest of  their lives when they leave custody with new identities. They will also leave custody early only serving just over half of their sentence.

They are being relocated to Australia to live out the rest of their lives. They disgustingly and violently took Jamie's life away and in return they each get a new life!   

[colonelsun]

Just a thought from an average intelligent guy. The web is universal so why are we still setting laws as individual states? It only ends up with individual countries making up their own laws based on political convenience or, as in this country, taste.

The Home Office's last web law was aimed at UK surfers looking at violent pornography, as far as i know no other country jumped aboard that crusade. Of course, like any other UK law regarding sex, the government firmly believes it has a right to know what we do in private and it also has a right to appoint a judge to deem it's tastefulness....we're literally enforcing law on one person's taste....not the consensus.

Surely the European Court would over-rule?

[Rik]

We certainly hope so.

[john]

They disgustingly and violently took Jamie's life away and in return they each get a new life!

More appropriately for a reward they got a new life  

One of the problems of giving them new identities (and others like them) is that it encourages vigilantes to try and find them and they may well get the wrong person instead. It would have been better for all concerned if they were never let out and would also have been a deterrent to others..

[Rik]

I wouldn't argue with a word of that, John. Some crimes really should mean life.

[Simon]

Yes, they should never have been freed.

[D-Dan]

May be of interest to Idnet

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[colonelsun]

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[colonelsun]

I wonder what Australia got in return? Politically, for any Aussie prime minister, it must be damaging.

Almost a throw back to the last time we sent our scum there.

[Rik]

That's what interested me, Dave. I wonder how much the deal cost us.

[john]

Maybe it was feeding time for their crocodiles 

[Rik]

 

Unkind to crocs!

[Gary]

Unkind to crocs!

Nothing worse than rotten meat 

[Rik]

 

[colonelsun]

That's what interested me, Dave. I wonder how much the deal cost us.

I wonder, the UK is still fighting veterans for compensation for the nuclear test programmes in Australia. Obviously the UK would prefer that the veterans died and thus end a shameful part of our history. Could it be that Australia agreed to accidentally lose certain documentation from those tests and in exchange take 2 ex cons?

That's the only reason i can think of that Australia would, in effect, break it's own immigration policy, they don't accept ex cons from any other country. And pratically the only ties we have with Australia are tourism, military hardware and security service support for the war on terrorism.

Still doesn't explain Rolf Harris though.

[Rik]

Does anything?