It's goodbye to IDNet, but not IDNetters

[PuncH]

Thought it only right that I tell you all (those that care!)

It was with a tinge of sadness that I migrated away from IDNet on Feb 3rd, for a couple of reasons that I shall keep to myself, for now at least. I was with IDNet just over 4 years which is by far the longest period of time I've spent with any ISP.

If it's OK I would still like to lurk around these forums in the future and offer any help where I can.

All the best, Jonathan

[Lance]

Hope all goes well with the new ISP. It certainly is ok to stick around here, but it does mean your name goes first on the tea making rota! 

[Steve]

Yes good luck, bet it was a bit of a wrench after 4 years and no need to be a stranger here.

[Gary]

Hope all goes well with the new ISP 

[Simon]

Best of luck, Jonathan. 

[Ray]

Good luck, Jonathan, I hope all goes well.

[Rik]

Good luck, Jonathan. You'll need to keep coming here so we can cheer you up after the football results. 

[PuncH]

Thank for all your best wishes 

Lets just hope the decision doesn't turn round and bite me on the bum!

[Rik]

We demand a photo if it does. 

[Glenn]

I hope it goes well for you Jon, and BT finally fix the Peterborough node properly.

[PuncH]

Ah, I'm glad P'boro has been sorted permanently! It's about time.

As it happens, when I first went onto ADSL2+ I messed around with things too much and ended up with a sync of 17000. I had a feeling it could do better, so I've left well alone since migrating and the 10 day retrain has just passed and I now have a sync of 21300, which is a bonus!

I do like IDNet, a lot, and I'll continue to recommend them.

[Lona]

You haven't said who your new isp is Punch.  Is it a secret.?

[PuncH]

No, it's no secret. Some may have guessed anyway 

It's Andrews & Arnold (AAISP). Same price as my IDNet tarif but with more useage allowance in the evenings which is what I needed. AAISP's offpeak time starts at 6pm too, and runs to 9am which I find better for me.

[Rik]

But do you understand the tariff?

[PuncH]

I do indeed! But I didn't migrate until I did. 

But it's not that complicated really.
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Honest

[bobleslie]

That it isn't. 

[Steve]

Perhaps a rename to the ISP for people who've got nothing better to do than go to work all day

[bobleslie]

I'm retired, and it suits me fine. 

I also like the increased allowances coming in April on 21CN.

[jrwyatt]

How weird that when PuncH migrates away, another Jonathan from Ipswich (me) joins! 

[Simon]

Very suspect! 

[Steve]

We only allow one person from Norfolk at a time.

[jrwyatt]

We only allow one person from Norfolk at a time.

That's good as Ipswich is in Suffolk 

[Steve]

Or right then Suffolk as well

[PuncH]

How weird! What part of Ipswich are you from?

You'll soon learn to "love" Rik's Norfolk comments 

[jrwyatt]

How weird! What part of Ipswich are you from?

You'll soon learn to "love" Rik's Norfolk comments 

I'm just off the far end of Bramford Lane. Suffolk, Norfolk, it's all the same to them posh London folk.

[PuncH]

I'm over the other side...Nacton Road near Murrayside School.

We know there is a world of difference between Suffolk and Norfolk folk 

[Lance]

Not to mention us Essex folks in Colchester

[PuncH]

Now Essex is a different matter altogether! 

[Rik]

London!!!  Anyway, I don't make Norfolk jokes, only ones about girls from Norfolk High.

[Gary]

I'm retired, and it suits me fine. 

I also like the increased allowances coming in April on 21CN.

I could never justify the price for peaktime usage, I'm way over 10GB, it would just be to expensive, and my evening usage is minute, AAISP is great if you use very little daytime, (I Think) but I do, and that always will rule it out, but its good to see another nice provider doing well.

[cavillas]

Not to mention us Essex folks in Colchester

NEVER mention us Essex folks at all...we are the silent powerful types who run the World in silence.

[Gary]

NEVER mention us Essex folks at all...we are the silent powerful types who run the World in silence.

The cult of Colchester vs the Illuminati, I think the latter wins just by its heritage  unless you are all aliens from another planet, and are operating Thetans in which case you ripped off the Scientology movement, even then its all a bit Norfolk like to me 

[bobleslie]

I could never justify the price for peaktime usage, I'm way over 10GB, it would just be to expensive, and my evening usage is minute, AAISP is great if you use very little daytime, (I Think) but I do, and that always will rule it out, but its good to see another nice provider doing well.

No, you certainly couldn't with a M-F 9-6 usage of 10GB. I must admit, I was concerned when I moved.

However, the reality for me is that my wife and I actually use just less than 2GB M-F 9-6 and the rest off-peak. We seem to be achieving an underusage of 2 Units each month (It rolls over) which gives us a total of 4 units each month to play with at a monthly cost of £17.95.

From April 2010, on 21CN, if I worked, I could spend my 4 units on 400GB of evening/weekend downloading or 8GB of Daytime downloading; or a combination of the two.

IOW for the more average usage person the daytime restrictions may be less of a problem than they think even if they don't go to work.

[Pix]

IOW for the more average usage person the daytime restrictions may be less of a problem than they think even if they don't go to work.

In my very brief spell with AAISP, the usage bands seemed to be self defeating. The huge gap between daytime and evening cost meant that everything slowed right down after 6pm with everyone going on at the same time. As for the even cheaper band between 2 and 6am, the one time I tried to use it my speed never got over 1Mbps (and rarely that high) on a line that should be getting about 7.

I also found I didn't want to turn my PC on before 6 - I'd only need Acrobat Pro to download an update and I'd have used 3 times my daily allowance before I'd actually done anything. Now we have the increased limits, I much prefer IDNet's system. I don't have a problem with AAISP's in principle, but the 100 fold difference between peak and off-peak seems excessive.

[bobleslie]

When were you with AAISP, Pix, and how long did you stay?

[Pix]

It was a month or two back and I only stayed for around a week. To be fair to AAISP, I didn't exactly give them much chance to sort the problems out and I'm sure my experience wasn't typical. They wanted to send out an engineer to look at the line but I was very skeptical as to whether it would get me anywhere. The fact that the speed dropped so clearly at peak times didn't make me think it was a line problem + my line was fine for 3 years with IDNet before and has worked perfectly from the moment I migrated back.

I'd have given them more of a chance but I only went with them as a test to see if I wanted to buy FTTC off them and with the speeds I was getting on ADSL I made that decision pretty quickly. Since I moved back, IDNet offered me the chance to pilot FTTC for them and I even got a free installation thrown in so I definitely made the right decision. Just got it installed this morning so I'm giving it a test run at the moment.

[Steve]

Since I moved back, IDNet offered me the chance to pilot FTTC for them and I even got a free installation thrown in so I definitely made the right decision. Just got it installed this morning so I'm giving it a test run at the moment.

Go away.

[Rik]

You're just trying to make us jealous, aren't you.

[Pix]

If I was trying to make you jealous I'd have posted the speed :-



Actually, that speed isn't even possible so I think its broken speedtest.net. On the downside, the upload is far less than I was expecting.

[Rik]

It would be interesting to see a BT test.

[Pix]

I'm just getting:-

The Performance Tester is currently unable to run a speed test for your broadband connection. Please try again shortly, however if this problem persists, raise the issue with your service provider.

if I try the BT checker. Not sure if I need a service id?

[Rik]

It may be the line isn't fully registered in its new incarnation yet.

[Pix]

I'll try it in a few days then and see if it springs into life. Its a lot quicker than I'm used to anyway.

Getting FTTC installed has been something of a pain between cancelled BT Openreach appointments and confusion this morning over who should be providing the modem & router. Simon at IDNet seemed to think I should be able to connect directly to the modem but the Openreach engineer disagreed as it wouldn't provide an IP address. I'm still far from clear about it but I've been able to stick my username and password into my old router and use the WAN port on it to connect to the provided modem. As far as I can tell, I'd have been without broadband for a bit if I hadn't had a router that could do that.

[Rik]

It'll be a bit of a learning curve for everyone, I suspect.

[Lance]

Getting FTTC installed has been something of a pain

I think it'll be worth it in the longer term!

[Rik]

It would for me.

[Pix]

I think it'll be worth it in the longer term!

True enough and I can hardly complain since I've not actually paid anything yet. I hope it goes a bit smoother for everyone else though as there have been problems at every stage of the process, I can see why IDNet would want to run a pilot now. The worst one was the day I spent waiting around for the installation only to find out afterwards that there was a glitch in the BT ordering system and the order had been cancelled without anyone being told.

The low upload speed is apparently because I'm on the base product btw and it's waiting to be upgraded.

[Pix]

It would be interesting to see a BT test.

Tried it again and it worked this time.


Download speedachieved during the test was - 32617 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 12000-35270 Kbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is -35270 Kbps

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 1603 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 2000 Kbps




 

[Rik]

I can but salivate.

[DorsetBoy]

I can but salivate.

Which will only make a mess on the keyboard and possibly short out your router.

[Rik]

 

I'll put the cover on first...

[Glenn]

But for 200m, I could have have a similar connection.  

[Rik]

I'm at 213m from the cabinet, so live in hope.

[Glenn]

I'm 200m from being on the correct exchange.

[DorsetBoy]

But for 200m, I could have have a similar connection.  

Don't complain, we can only get ADSLMax here not even a fast LLU, BT's statements about upgrades to a better service are as reliable as the UK parliament 

[Steve]

Probably a stupid question but how do find your distance to the BT cabinet for FTTC purposes?

[Glenn]

Ask a BT engineer. I'm not sure how far I am from mine, Steve, but 2 streets away, they are on a different exchange with FTTC enabled.

[Steve]

I must be along way away then never see them

[Glenn]

I would think that the FTTC cabinets would be built close to the normal cabinets.

[Rik]

Probably a stupid question but how do find your distance to the BT cabinet for FTTC purposes?

As Glenn says, Steve, only a BT engineer can give you a definitive answer.

[Technical Ben]

As Glenn says, Steve, only a BT engineer can give you a definitive answer.

Yep, I've heard of next door neighbours being on different exchanges connected to different VILLAGES, let alone cabinets.