Apple use child labour

[Niall]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/7332405/Apple-admits-child-labour-used-at-its-assembly-plants.html

Microsoft couldn't buy publicity like this!

[Rik]

Or maybe they did?

[Niall]

[Lance]

So, Apple being mindful of their CSR complete annual supplier audits, the results (or rather the execptions to policy) they have made public, and in some cases have cut ties with the supplier, and people are having a go at Apple (I've read a few different articals today)? 

[Gary]

So, Apple being mindful of their CSR complete annual supplier audits, the results (or rather the execptions to policy) they have made public, and in some cases have cut ties with the supplier, and people are having a go at Apple (I've read a few different articals today)? 

Everyone likes to twist the knife it seems no matter what a company does, Lance these days

[Niall]

Or could it be said that they've known about it for ages and only done something about it when it was known it was going to be public? See you can twist it anyway you want.

[Gary]

Or could it be said that they've known about it for ages and only done something about it when it was known it was going to be public? See you can twist it anyway you want.

Either way the media would twist it for the headlines Niall, that's their job these days, to make shock horror stories, how many other companies do you think have this issue? Loads I imagine, and when the media gets a sniff of it they will pounce, they love to sensationalise and dig the knife in, whether its swine flue or a huge corporation, best thing to do is not believe what you see and read in to much and then let your common sense take over and try to scan as many articles and get the bigger picture, even then I have come to the conclusion I dont believe much of anything I read or see on TV now, its just the modern version of a variety show, they put more spin on things than bloody MP's

[Niall]

Well that's well and good, but I'm not talking about a TV show, biased news reporting or anything like that. As you say all the facts are out there if you care to look, and at the end of the day they employed children to do work. They are the facts. Whether or not they knew about it at the top is irrelevant as they should have known, as it's their job to monitor who they hire.

[Tacitus]

....at the end of the day they employed children to do work. They are the facts.

No, Apple didn't 'employ children to do work'.  They entered into a contract with a supplier who employed children to do work, contrary to Apple's standard conditions of contract. 

Whether or not they knew about it at the top is irrelevant as they should have known, as it's their job to monitor who they hire.

Which is exactly what they did.  Apple, like any responsible company, did an audit of its suppliers, discovered what was going on and took appropriate action.  All of this was documented in their public report.

These suppliers are the same ones who do work for other big name manufacturers, but I have yet to hear of any reports on child labour or working conditions in general, from Lenovo, HP, Dell et al, still less from any of the myriad PC component suppliers. 

[Gary]

Well that's well and good, but I'm not talking about a TV show, biased news reporting or anything like that. As you say all the facts are out there if you care to look, and at the end of the day they employed children to do work. They are the facts. Whether or not they knew about it at the top is irrelevant as they should have known, as it's their job to monitor who they hire.

Yes you were talking about a show, because that's where you read or heard it, welcome to the Media Niall.

Tacitus has already said Apple cut ties when it found out, but the media likes to make it sound like they didn't, it is a show, and one that misrepresents facts, or hides others depending on how it suits them, and the shock factor they can make and how big of a hornets nest can be built for those all important articles that don't quite say it as it is. If you look at what has been said, and not what has been implied you soon see the games that are played and then what really has occurred.

  Do you really as has been said by Tacitus that other company's are not aware, or have not found out yet? You try monitoring thousands of suppliers that you do not own who make parts for you from all over the world, its not like nipping into a back room in Hackney to have a quick peek sadly  Anyway my iPhone and your iPhone could have had parts made by child Labour, shall we take them back? Or maybe parts of your PC...or TV...or the games you play or even the clothes you wear, the list could be endless.