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zappaDPJ · Mar 26, 2010, 20:45:48

Harsh punishment for using a wall hack

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=239999&source=newsletter

He was rather lucky to survive that I'd say.

Niall · Mar 27, 2010, 21:22:12

He got off lightly

Simon · Mar 27, 2010, 21:25:54

I bet everyone thought it was a joke knife!

psp83 · Mar 27, 2010, 22:09:46

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 26, 2010, 20:45:48
Harsh punishment for using a wall hack

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=239999&source=newsletter

He was rather lucky to survive that I'd say.

I bet the person that did it turned around after and said "wtf, that didn't kill him!! f**king lag!!!"

Rik · Mar 28, 2010, 10:59:29

Technical Ben · Mar 28, 2010, 13:08:52

No matter what he did I cannot laugh at such deranged violence. Really, he could have been killed or crippled or left in a vegitive state for life.
I'm all for righteous punishment, but like for like. Remove his pc use. Or hack his connection so he plays against unbeatable Computer opponents for life.
I do hate hackers, especially those who deny it. But that is just ridiculous!

psp83 · Mar 28, 2010, 13:41:29

He got the point though!

had to be said!

zappaDPJ · Mar 28, 2010, 18:56:37

Quote from: Technical Ben on Mar 28, 2010, 13:08:52
No matter what he did I cannot laugh at such deranged violence. Really, he could have been killed or crippled or left in a vegitive state for life.
I'm all for righteous punishment, but like for like. Remove his pc use. Or hack his connection so he plays against unbeatable Computer opponents for life.
I do hate hackers, especially those who deny it. But that is just ridiculous!

I agree, it's so far over the top it's utterly ridiculous. However it is a good example of how computers and particularly computer games are starting to dominate the lives of those who perhaps don't necessarily have the best options in real life. There have been quite a few examples recently of people who have allowed a virtual life to have dire consequences in the real world often resulting in someone's death. It tends to happen more in emerging far eastern countries but it's a trend that needs to be watched and something I'm sure we'll be reading about a lot more about in future.

Technical Ben · Mar 28, 2010, 20:34:31

I totally agree zappa. But blaming the games themselves, is like blaming chocolate cake for obesity. The people involved do have minds and can make their own decisions. However, it would seem some games are as dangerous to some as alcohol or drugs are to most of us!

Niall · Mar 28, 2010, 20:49:00

It always makes me laugh when people blame the games. They merrily rant away about how the games are causing killing sprees and other violence, either blissfully ignorant of the fact that they themselves play games and have yet to kill or attack anyone as a result, or deliberately mislead to write news articles in the paper to sell copies.

zappaDPJ · Mar 28, 2010, 21:06:11

It's not so much pointing the blame at a game, in this case it was simply the catalyst for an outrageous act. However computer games have moved on an amazing amount since we shot at waves of descending Lego blocks and they are they are having an effect on many people's lives, not necessarily detrimental of course. In fact the opposite often applies and contrary to popular belief there is a huge social element to on-line gaming.

What I am saying is that to say computer games do not affect people is the same as saying the same of books and films etc. If that was the case nobody would bother. The do affect people and they can certainly have an impact on real life. As games and virtual worlds become more and more realistic there are bound to be people that get lock in and lose perspective.

Niall · Mar 28, 2010, 22:18:07

This is the thing that people don't understand, and if they've never played these games or any other competitive sport to any degree of seriousness, they never can. It's a new generation of games that a lot of older generations don't see the fascination with.

If you're playing these incredibly immersive games in a multiplayer scenario with other users, you are competing directly with another person. If that person cheats or is abusive, etc, you are angry with them, not the game. If you're in a LAN cafe then you can actually vent your frustration with the person in the real world as you would with any competitive game, real world or online computer game based.

Why this is constantly missed is beyond me as it seems very obvious that you will challenge someone that pees you off in a competitive scenario.

It isn't the game, it's the resulting actions of someone else. When people take it to an extreme it's exactly the same as you'd see on a football pitch in your local park, or any other site for any type of game. The only reason it makes the news is because most people don't play on consoles or are not playing anything in a competitive situation, and as it's a relatively new medium they don't understand it.

If someone kills someone, then the problem is the person not whatever they were doing before hand, game wise. Why bother trying to understand something when you can just go on a witch hunt, eh? Christ, even people that have killed others after watching football, hockey or american football just get sent to the loony bin for "sport rage".