IDNet launches FTTC

[pctech]

I hope that in the none too distant future a fixed data pipe will become standard in new and older houses, like a national grid for data.

I do agree though, we have two landlines at home, one which is the main line and has a monitored alarm system on it which doesn't work well with broadband and one just purely to support an ADSL connection.

[joll200x]

has anyone got any ideas how the connection will actually be bought into the homes? Someone mentioned using a router with an ethernet connection but thats all I've found so far. I'll be quite happy with just the fibre poking through a hole in the wall somewhere and one media converter later i'll be sorted

[gizmo71]

has anyone got any ideas how the connection will actually be bought into the homes? Someone mentioned using a router with an ethernet connection but thats all I've found so far. I'll be quite happy with just the fibre poking through a hole in the wall somewhere and one media converter later i'll be sorted

It won't be fibre to the home, that would be FTTH. I gather it will be an additional twisted pair (i.e. on top of the one carrying analog voice), which is plugged into a VDSL modem. You then plug your ethernet into it, which would for most of use be via a router (I assume that in theory if you're only connecting a single PC you can do that direct, without a router).

Does anyone know if it will be possible to have just a VDSL service, without any voice service at all? Or will I still be stuck with a landline I never use just so I can have a DSL line?

[Rik]

AFAIK, Giz, the signal is carried on coax and it definitely does support voices calls, just like ADSL. Existing phone numbers can be transferred to the VDSL service.

[Scorpio1]

Inkblot here - can't recall my normal password but managed to recall the one I originally setup way back in 2007 - the same one i couldn't recall a few months back when I wanted to ask something that led me to making a new account (Inkblot). I blame my age....

No doubt my Inkblot password will come to me in a minute but in the meantime I have a question:

My exchange (Southend) is listed as December - but there are several exchanges that cover the Southend area, none of them are just called 'Southend', does this mean that all of the exchanges will be enabled in December so no matter which exchange is your local one FTTC will be available?

[sparky]

There is a half decent article about this in the latest edition of PC Pro.

FTTC uses existing copper wire from the cabinet to the home.
FTTP (fibre to the premises) is the 100Mb version.

Apparently the VDSL modem also has to be right next to your master socket, which gets replaced with a different master socket.
BT have to install the modem, it only comes with the engineer.
If you need your router somewhere other than next to the Master Socket then BT can fit a BT Infinity Data Extension Kit.

Whether this only applies to the BT version, BT Infinity, I can't tell.

No costs are quoted though...........

[Rik]

Do you want me to reset your other password, Inky, and email you the new one?

VDSL is a bit specific, compared to ADSL. Even if an exchange is activated, not all cabinets may be, so we have to wait and see to a great extent.

[sparky]

This article also says that "even if your cabinet is enabled, if BT can't achieve a speed of at least 15Mbs/sec on a line it will refuse to install it. Thus preventing anyone who for example might currently get 2MBs the opportunity of upgrading to say 10 Mbs.

No hope for the Rural life again.............

[Scorpio1]

Do you want me to reset your other password, Inky, and email you the new one?

Thanks but no worries Rik, it'll come back to me - this is why 99% of the time I don't save login credentials but as I come here so much I made an exception - bad move! If I can't remember it later I'll look it up in my password spreadsheet (Assuming I can remember the password for that ) and if that fails i'll ask you to reset it

VDSL is a bit specific, compared to ADSL. Even if an exchange is activated, not all cabinets may be, so we have to wait and see to a great extent.

Ah, so no point in me getting excited at the thought of 'up to 40m' just yet then. December suddenly seems a long way away

[Rik]

OK, from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

1) Yes, there is a minimum speed below which BT won't install fibre, I can't see the reasoning behind this myself.

2) The signal is carried on a twisted pair, not coax as I thought

3) You must have a phone line active to get fibre

4) Not all cabinets for a given exchange will be enabled, initially

5) The BT installation fits a new faceplate to the existing master socket, which filters the VDSL/phone at that point

6) The supplied modem needs a power supply, iow, you need to have a power supply adjacent to the master socket

If I haven't covered anything, let me know and I'll seek out the details.

[Rik]

Thanks but no worries Rik, it'll come back to me - this is why 99% of the time I don't save login credentials but as I come here so much I made an exception - bad move! If I can't remember it later I'll look it up in my password spreadsheet (Assuming I can remember the password for that ) and if that fails i'll ask you to reset it

You could use the 'forever' option on the login, Inky, that will keep you logged in by using a cookie.

[Rik]

Ah, so no point in me getting excited at the thought of 'up to 40m' just yet then. December suddenly seems a long way away

Doesn't it.

[zappaDPJ]

BT have repositioned the FTTC cabinet I'm hoping to connect to this month to the other side of the standard cabinet. That's a mighty move of around 10 feet. I'm sure it makes sense to them

[Rik]

They possibly need to run the two in parallel until FTTC goes live?

[zappaDPJ]

I really don't know, the two cabinets have been sitting side by side for a year or more. All they have done is moved the FTTC cabinet up the road a few feet so now there are 3 cabinets.

[Rik]

Planning problems, power supply?

[Bill]

Planning problems, power supply?

Somebody cut the cable a few feet too short?

[Rik]

Or that, Bill.

[chrish]

Hi
I have noticed today that the Openreach vans where all over my estate (Shenley Lodge Milton Keynes) i asked the guys what they where doing and they said they where laying the Fibre cable so you should be able to get it soon ( i am connected to bradwell abey). i am not sure when it will be activated but i am guessing you guys at Idnet will let me know or will i recieve somthing through the post from BT ?

thanks

Chris H

[Simon]

  Chris.

Yes, I am sure IDNet will let you know when fibre becomes available, and I believe you can also check on the website, at: http://www.idnet.net/fibre/

[Steve]

 

I did find somewhere that Bradwell Abbey is not appearing in the list of FTTC exchanges as its taking part in FTTP/H


http://www.bb4mk.org/bt_FTTP_Trial.htm

I don't have any more information but support should be able to give you the up to date information.

[gizmo71]

I believe you can also check on the website, at: http://www.idnet.net/fibre/

You could if the checker didn't do this:

Code Select Expand

HTTP Status 500 -

type Exception report

message

description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

exception

org.apache.jasper.JasperException: For input string: ""
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:373)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:295)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:245)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
mobis.filters.AuthenticationFilter.doFilter(AuthenticationFilter.java:236)

root cause

java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: ""
java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:48)
java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:468)
java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:497)
org.apache.jsp.support.availability_jsp._jspService(org.apache.jsp.support.availability_jsp:1615)
org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:99)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:325)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:295)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:245)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
mobis.filters.AuthenticationFilter.doFilter(AuthenticationFilter.java:236)

note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Apache Tomcat/5.5.4 logs.
Apache Tomcat/5.5.4

[Glenn]

It's working OK here.

[Bill]

Fine here too.

[Gary]

Fine here as well, no good news on fibre or adsl 2+ though