IDNet launches FTTC

[gizmo71]

I just tried it with my parents' phone number and it works for that. Must just be me it hates!

[chrish]

@ Steve/Simon

Yes it would seem that its FTTP/H and not FTTC if this is the case where do i stand with regards getting connected when its hooked up ...  is Ident participating in the trial or have any plans to  ?

Thanks

Chris H

[Glenn]

Chris, I think a quick call to support will be needed, they will be able to tell you if IDNet are part of the trial.

[Ray]

  Chris.H

[philnorton]

Imagine my surprise when I saw today that my exchange is now ready. I click through all of the relevant screens, and then I spot one little detail... The modem has to be installed at the master socket, close to a power supply. And my master socket was (cleverly!!!) installed in the larder cupboard in the kitchen, with no existing sockets nearby. I guess I could maybe get a spark to take some existing cabling and add a socket or two into the cupboard, but surely having the router (Apple Time Capsule) in there would result in a reduced signal? I guess there's no way of using the phone extension that I currently use for ADSL?

TIA
Phil

[Steve]

You can always run a long length of  ethernet cable from the modem to the router which is placed in a convenient location. I would have thought that the length of the ethernet cable would follow the usual rules i.e 100metres.  I could be completely wrong of course, and it could be much less as I've seen hub to hub quoted at 10 metres. Support should know.

[Bill]

Another possibility (assuming a twin mains socket in the cupboard) is to connect the modem to a Homeplug and distribute the signal that way.

[Steve]

I've used that method with an adsl modem seemed to work fine.

[Bill]

I'm OK for power etc, but I don't think my router (3Com 3CRWDR101A-75) will operate in bridge(?) mode so I'll have to get plain router. More expense

Assuming BT ever actually DO get around to fibreing up my cabinet

[Rik]

The modem has to be installed at the master socket, close to a power supply.

Simply get BT to re-site the master socket in a more convenient location.

[Steve]

I wonder how much they charge for that.

[Rik]

AFAIK, nothing, it's classed as a new line installation.

[Gary]

I wonder how much they charge for that.

if its a normal re-site because you dont like where it is its £160 Steve, if you have a BT friend, a tenner 

[Simon]

So, they charge £160 if they come out for a fault that turns out to be the customers equipment, but will move a socket, for a customer's convenience, free of charge?

[Gary]

So, they charge £160 if they come out for a fault that turns out to be the customers equipment, but will move a socket, for a customer's convenience, free of charge?

Only if its a new installation Simon and FTTC counts as that by the looks of it, if its because you need it in a different room they charge that £160 which is outrageous

[Rik]

So, they charge £160 if they come out for a fault that turns out to be the customers equipment, but will move a socket, for a customer's convenience, free of charge?

That's as I understand it.

[philnorton]

Simply get BT to re-site the master socket in a more convenient location.

Hi Rik

Is that something I'd need to ask the engineer when he arrived? Would IDNet be in a position to tell me whether or not there would be a charge from BT for that?

[Rik]

AFAIK, there's no charge, it's a new installation and BT should put the master socket where you want it.

[Gary]

AFAIK, there's no charge, it's a new installation and BT should put the master socket where you want it.

Its only chargeable if you call them out to move it when its a line that's installed already, unless you have tea and biscuits and a nice BT engineer 

[kev445]

Am I missing something here cost wise?

My local caabinet is due to upgrade Dec 2010.

Looking at Idnet price against BT Infinity, Idnet doesnt look such good value to me.

BT £24.99/month 18 month contract. Free Hub, free install and unlimited (fair use) downloading.

Idnet £34.99/month 12 month contract. Connection charge of £47, Need to buy Modem £30+ , 200GB allowance.

I am a long way from the exchange and 2MB is about my max on adsl+ so any increase in speed will be very welcome but not at any cost, having to lock into a contract for 12 or 18 months makes little difference, you are still locked to someone.

I  know I'm a bit late, however it's worth pointing out the following regarding BT's offering.

• They throttle P2P
• They have a 100GB fair use policy
• If you go over the fair use policy, you are throttled the following month.

They feel they can use the word unlimited, as a majority of their customers don't get near the limit, thus is appears unlimited, sigh.

[Steve]

Very similar to their adsl packages then, no free lunches as usual.

[Bill]

• They throttle P2P
• They have a 100GB fair use policy
• If you go over the fair use policy, you are throttled the following month.

Going up to 300GB on 1st November, penultimate paragraph:

http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Home/WHERE-IS-OUR-USAGE-MONITOR-BT/td-p/35371/page/5

[kev445]

OK, from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

1) Yes, there is a minimum speed below which BT won't install fibre, I can't see the reasoning behind this myself.

I think I need to clarify the above point...

<we have had to remove the quote as it breaches BT's legal terms on confidentiality>


Rik

[kev445]

I think I need to clarify the above point...

<we have had to remove the quote as it breaches BT's legal terms on confidentiality>


Rik

It wasn't a quote, it was in my own words... Perhaps the only thing you should have removed is the link to the document? But even that is freely available on Google.


Either way i'll respect your decision.

[HavellN]

Hi,

according to the list of fttc enabled exchanges (http://www.idnet.net/fibre/), my local one is now active (Bury St Edmunds), SamKnows also says the active date is 1st September, however when I do the telephone number availability check it tells me it isn't..

anyone got any ideas on which is correct?

thanks,
Nath