Windows 7

Broadback · May 27, 2010, 17:51:18

Having purchased a new computer I was forced from Windows XP to Windows 7. I have been working on it for a number of hours each day since Sunday, still not working as I would wish. Getting applications to cross over is a headache. Also I got my Canon printer to work but neither their G3 camera or D2400U scanner will work. Canon's web site is a maze. My main problem is SeaMonkey it seems very unstable, some times emails will get put into the junk folders, also News.Eternal-September is very his and miss. Am I alone in this, or do others find Windows 7 a pain in the derriere? One good thing to come out of it I had problems getting Eset on board, the service given was superb, emails answered almost immediately, then as I still could not get it to work theya sked me to telephone, with my permission they took over my computer and solved it rapidly. It turns out it was my error!

Simon · May 27, 2010, 17:57:34

Could you not transfer your SeaMonkey profile over from the old machine, BB?

Steve · May 27, 2010, 17:59:54

Mac user so beware found this for the G3

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/19066-canon-g3-windows-7-a.html
Hi there, so I figured out what was meant by "camera menu" - the menu on the camera itself - duh!

So for the Canon Powershot G3, you press the "Menu" button, and select the second set of menus (orange icon with wrench and hammer, presumably "settings"), scroll down to the very last item which is "Communication". The default is "Normal" and you want to change it to "PTP". As WifiEd says, Windows 7 will now recognize the device and install the drivers and give you options to download the info. A card reader may be faster but it's nice to know you can go direct from the camera. I didn't find it that slow.

There may be a way to use ZoomBrowser EX and Canon Utilities Camera Window. I downloaded the latest versions (ZoomBrowser EX 6.4.1 which supposedly supports Windows Vista 64-bit) and am tried running it. ZoomBrowser recognizes the camera and tries to launch the Camera Window but it freezes. One or both the apps may work in Compatibility Mode but I haven't figured out for sure yet.

Canon says that the Powershot G3 is Windows 7 Compatible, but you think they would give more info on how to make it work!

Steve · May 27, 2010, 18:08:14

XP drivers for scanner here whether they work I don't know http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0000445.asp

Broadback · May 27, 2010, 18:22:54

Simon that is exactly what I did, a number of times, still a bag of worms. I have even input the news reader data by hand, I copied the info off my old machine. It is sitting sadly in the garage with just a screen attached!

Broadback · May 27, 2010, 18:36:29

Thanks Steve, I followed the instruction for the came and it seemed to work. However the scanner shows no program for the scanner and Widows 7. I have not had time yet to see if the camera works ok, and I am off now to trip the light fantastic. Will update tomorrow.

Rik · May 27, 2010, 18:38:19

Slow, slow, quick, quick, slow.

Den · May 27, 2010, 18:49:21

There are a number of Canon scanners that will not work with Vista or W7. I had a canon 8000f and ended up upgrading to the 8800f which I must admit is faster and nicer to use. The fault is not Microsoft it's Canon who seem to refuse to keep up so they can sell more products.

Lance · May 27, 2010, 18:53:16

Fortunately, when I moved to W7, I didn't have any problems at all

quandam · May 27, 2010, 18:54:11

BB

What are your feelings re W7 as we type? I have run it on a Medion Desktop PC (superb by the way) for almost six weeks now and I would say it is OK, no more than that. XP to me has/had everything for the average punter, in fact a dream to use and without serious problems. XP, for me, takes some beating (for the average punter!)

Broadback · May 28, 2010, 08:17:35

Quote from: Rik on May 27, 2010, 18:38:19
Slow, slow, quick, quick, slow.

Sadly not Rik, more clump, clump, clumps. My partners do note wear steel capped shoes for nothing!

Rik · May 28, 2010, 08:30:18

Bring back Victor, I say.

Gary · May 28, 2010, 09:13:54

Quote from: quandam on May 27, 2010, 18:54:11
BB

What are your feelings re W7 as we type? I have run it on a Medion Desktop PC (superb by the way) for almost six weeks now and I would say it is OK, no more than that. XP to me has/had everything for the average punter, in fact a dream to use and without serious problems. XP, for me, takes some beating (for the average punter!)

Its safer, more robust and has better features Q in the long term a ten year old OS against modern malware? Thats like hitting a wall in a ten year old car its going to hurt, now it will still hurt in a brand new one with 8 airbags but you will probably walk away intact. The modern car will generally be safer more efficient and designed for todays environment, like windows 7.

Ray · May 28, 2010, 09:51:16

I agree, Gary, I've been using Windows 7 64bit version since it's release with no problems, and I must say I've found it to be better than XP, easier to use and it boots up and runs faster.

D-Dan · May 28, 2010, 11:03:31

I, too, prefer 7 64bit to XP. I've had no problems with hardware (including an aging Samsung SCX-4216F) and with the exception of one game, all software works well.

Give it some time, there are differences between Win 7 and XP that take a little getting used to, but once you do it's much better. In fact, it's starting to catch up with Ubuntu

Steve

Gary · May 28, 2010, 12:09:46

WEll I may be ging back to windows next week, Apple say they will refund me, as long as they refund the applce care i can get a i7 2.8Ghz 3XS system with USB3 and Sata 6 mobo and two 1 TB HD's a Creative fatality soundcard and corsair liquid cooling for the cpu and 6 mb corsair ram for £150 more than my iMac! I'm just so disappointed in Apples careless attitude with the machines it has made me want to flee them as soon as possible. Spoke to scan this morning and they can do me a Silverstone fortress case without the silly window as well, they were very helpful. Even though Rik has mentioned Viewsonics bad handling of a product scan have a really great 23" 1080P IPS monitor by them for £243t.
OSX is just so easy to look after though, and the iMac is great but I don't hold out much for Apple build quality, they seem to be more about rushing out numbers rather than quality at this time, the 27" iMac is still a mess as well. In fact the 21.5" I have is about the best of the the bunch bar Mac Pros, and the 21.5" has a few niggling issues. I will miss the LED backlit screen if it all goes ahead though it is glorious.

Simon · May 28, 2010, 12:17:54

You've got to go with what you'll be happy with. Your experience of the Mac is tinged, so your decisioc is understandable, Gary.

Steve · May 28, 2010, 12:18:16

Tis a shame I've got three Apple machines now 2 laps and a 24 iMac and not a single hardware issue I think you've been unfortunate but it's worry if cs can't sort the problem out to your satisfaction

Rik · May 28, 2010, 12:26:07

You should get an Eizo, Gary.

Broadback · May 28, 2010, 12:29:39

Thanks for all the help. Steves solution for the camera worked. However this is Canon reply to my query:

Thank you for contacting Canon Support. Your reference/ticket number is 1040329. We are sorry to hear about the compatibility problems you are having with both your PowerShot G3 and CanoScan D2400UF.

Be advised that it is with great regret that I must inform you that we have not and we will not be developing drivers that would allow your two products to be interfaced with a PC on which the 32-bit variant of the Microsoft Windows 7 Operating System is installed. In short, your products are not compatible with your OS. Be advised that the PowerShot G3 can still download the images if you purchase a card reader.

I appreciate that this must be disappointing for you, but should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us on the telephone number below ensuring to quote your Canon Helpdesk ticket number noted in the subject line above. Alternatively, you can reply directly to this email by navigating to the link below.

Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us on the telephone number below ensuring to quote your Canon Helpdesk ticket number noted in the subject line above. Alternatively, you can reply directly to this email by navigating to the link below.

Best regards,
so that is the last Canon bit of kit that I will purchase.

Rik · May 28, 2010, 12:30:44

I can understand that, BB, that's an appalling attitude to take.

DorsetBoy · May 28, 2010, 12:34:54

Have Win7 on 3 machines and it works like a dream, I have never been an M$ fan but really can't fault Win7, it really does the job, I could/would never go back to XP again now.

Steve · May 28, 2010, 12:36:39

I'll have a further dig re the scanner over the weekend

DorsetBoy · May 28, 2010, 12:41:26

Quote from: Broadback on May 28, 2010, 12:29:39
Thanks for all the help. Steves solution for the camera worked. However this is Canon reply to my query:

Thank you for contacting Canon Support. Your reference/ticket number is 1040329. We are sorry to hear about the compatibility problems you are having with both your PowerShot G3 and CanoScan D2400UF.

Be advised that it is with great regret that I must inform you that we have not and we will not be developing drivers that would allow your two products to be interfaced with a PC on which the 32-bit variant of the Microsoft Windows 7 Operating System is installed. In short, your products are not compatible with your OS. Be advised that the PowerShot G3 can still download the images if you purchase a card reader.

I appreciate that this must be disappointing for you, but should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us on the telephone number below ensuring to quote your Canon Helpdesk ticket number noted in the subject line above. Alternatively, you can reply directly to this email by navigating to the link below.

Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us on the telephone number below ensuring to quote your Canon Helpdesk ticket number noted in the subject line above. Alternatively, you can reply directly to this email by navigating to the link below.

Best regards,
so that is the last Canon bit of kit that I will purchase.

Try the Vista drivers before you do anything else. Many hardware manufacturers decided to have a cut off at Win7. HP do not supply anything for my printer and scanner. M$ provide a basic features driver for the printer but that meant Photosmart was gone along with other things. I went to HP,got the 64bit driver suite for my kit and installed it as is,not with compatibility mode and now have both scanner and printer working perfectly.

My son has stacks of games written for XP , we installed them from disc without any compatibility changes and all but 2 work perfectly, he says they are now running better than on XP.

Steve · May 28, 2010, 12:44:27

There are no vista drivers for the scanner I think the suggestion for vista was to use the XP drivers

Gary · May 28, 2010, 17:44:11

Quote from: Steve on May 28, 2010, 12:18:16
Tis a shame I've got three Apple machines now 2 laps and a 24 iMac and not a single hardware issue I think you've been unfortunate but it's worry if cs can't sort the problem out to your satisfaction

I think the quality this year dipped Steve, but I have to say CS is always important and I do feel they just don't care, I love my Mac but when you see what you can get for that cash elsewhere it makes you wonder why you put up with the grief from Apple for 4 months, at that price no one should be treated with suffer of refund as an answer. in fact not at any price

Gary · May 28, 2010, 17:46:29

Quote from: Simon on May 28, 2010, 12:17:54
You've got to go with what you'll be happy with. Your experience of the Mac is tinged, so your decisioc is understandable, Gary.

Thats the worse thing Simon, the grass is not always greener on the other side $:-\$

Simon · May 28, 2010, 17:47:29

No, and 'decision' isn't always spelt like I did either!

Gary · May 28, 2010, 17:50:27

Quote from: Simon on May 28, 2010, 17:47:29
No, and 'decision' isn't always spelt like I did either!

I never noticed, which says alot about my spelling

Steve · May 28, 2010, 18:11:57

Off topic with reference to Gary and the Mac I think after my experience with Mac OS X I would find it very difficult personally to go back to Windows and I known 7 is better than rest. If I fell out with the Mac I'd be very tempted and I think almost certain to go to Linux. All my music is on a Fedora based headless server and the dam thing is so configurable and reliable, you need to learn some CLI commands but I find that bizarrely fun in this day and age of GUIs

Rik · May 28, 2010, 18:13:16

QuoteAll my music is on a Fedora based headless server

Does that imply you've overdone the head-banging, Steve.

Steve · May 28, 2010, 18:18:02

Rik · May 28, 2010, 18:21:48

Gary · May 28, 2010, 23:00:09

Quote from: Steve on May 28, 2010, 18:11:57
Off topic with reference to Gary and the Mac I think after my experience with Mac OS X I would find it very difficult personally to go back to Windows and I known 7 is better than rest. If I fell out with the Mac I'd be very tempted and I think almost certain to go to Linux. All my music is on a Fedora based headless server and the dam thing is so configurable and reliable, you need to learn some CLI commands but I find that bizarrely fun in this day and age of GUIs

Its not a matter of falling out with OSX, but Apple, support has been bad over the issues with the new iMacs, I love the I don't have to worry about tuning OSX like defragging, but I also miss that, I oddly miss perfect disc, Ccleaner having a decent messenger program that all my friends use, even though Windows does not flow like OSX if i go back my productivity will probably be the same, my computer future proofing will be greater, I'll have USB3 for a start and a Blu-ray burner, but I'll also have a mirriad of hidden settings, no iLife ill have to install stuff for my iPhone and the AV of my choice may or may not bog down my machine or make it act quirky, If I change its back to windows as that's what I used to use, and no one is telling me what I can or cannot install on it or making war with adobe and not asking me if I want Flash, I guess between CS and the church of Jobs they have spoilt what is a truly glorious machine. I am long over being a person who uses a pc as a hobby, but at least I can upgrade my graphics card, PSU, have hot swappable harddrives all for the same price as my iMac, and after being told to go get stuffed really it feels very tempting, and thats not what I expected, Apple are evil, they make MS look mellow these days

Broadback · May 29, 2010, 11:05:40

Having spent ages searching I have given up on the scanner, so reckon I will either have to do without or buy a new one (not Canon). I had trouble with SeaMonkey but have, at last resolved that. This now leaves me with just my Polar S-series Toolkit to resolve, I am unable to load it and can, so far, find no help on the internet or Polar's web site. Ah well ,it is raining anyway!

Den · May 29, 2010, 12:13:07

I thought the Canon 8000f was great until I was forced into changing because of lack of Windows 7 drivers. I bought the Canon 8800f and am so glad I did it's by far the best scanner I have ever tried and so much quicker than the 8000f.

Steve · May 29, 2010, 12:42:06

It's odd Den as having checked the Windows 7 hardware compatibility the 8000F is said to be compatible, however the D2400U is not listed as either compatible or incompatible for 7 but is listed as compatible with Vista.

Broadback, the only driver I found was this one it's said to work with Vista here but also mentioned elsewhere was a scanner reset whether thats a power cycle or a switch I don't know before it was detected by the software.