Word of caution regarding fibre roll out

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 14:09:28

When I was talking with the Openreach engineer the other day he warned me my connection may go down for 24-48 hours but they could not say when and it was unlikely that the ISPs would be informed so if you see the Openreach vans in your area be prepared for this happening at some point.

Fox · Jul 19, 2010, 14:31:45

The only time I see an Openreach van around here is when the driver is lost, we havent even got ADSL2 yet and the only fibre around here is in AllBran.

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 14:32:23

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 14:53:49

Certainly there's downtime, but I understood it to be for a few hours.

DorsetBoy · Jul 19, 2010, 14:54:21

Quote from: Fox on Jul 19, 2010, 14:31:45
The only time I see an Openreach van around here is when the driver is lost, we havent even got ADSL2 yet and the only fibre around here is in AllBran.

and we all know what happens when you mix AllBran with BT...

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 14:54:58

Are you calling BT a bull?

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 15:46:10

That's all he said, but it could be because the deployment is a little more complex than normal round where I am.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 15:46:47

Oh well, come December, we'll know for sure.

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 15:50:34

Apparently Bradwell Abbey is coming on stream September/October time so I'll report back.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 16:10:07

Why am I always last.

Glenn · Jul 19, 2010, 16:12:06

So close, yet so far.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 16:14:15

Sounds like me trying to squeeze through a narrow gap.

Glenn · Jul 19, 2010, 16:14:35

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 17:22:16

We'll have to get some dark fibre laid to link you up Rik.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 17:23:00

That would be handy if we went to live on the Black Isle.

Glenn · Jul 19, 2010, 17:26:12

The brewery makes some good ales.

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 17:30:10

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 17:31:00

Quote from: Glenn on Jul 19, 2010, 17:26:12
The brewery makes some good ales.

It does.

We tried a few, purely in the interests of science you understand.

Glenn · Jul 19, 2010, 17:39:26

Product testing.

DorsetBoy · Jul 19, 2010, 17:39:55

What is more worrying is where people had a short line and high synch on Max only to find that when FTTC was brought to their service the line was suddenly over 4Km long and throughput was err.... c**p. It seems that you do not always get joined to the nearest cabinet.

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 17:42:31

If that happens its coming out.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 17:46:09

Quote from: DorsetBoy on Jul 19, 2010, 17:39:55
What is more worrying is where people had a short line and high synch on Max only to find that when FTTC was brought to their service the line was suddenly over 4Km long and throughput was err.... c**p. It seems that you do not always get joined to the nearest cabinet.

I've been told my cabinet will be 213m away. I hope that's right.

Glenn · Jul 19, 2010, 17:47:38

Quote from: DorsetBoy on Jul 19, 2010, 17:39:55
What is more worrying is where people had a short line and high synch on Max only to find that when FTTC was brought to their service the line was suddenly over 4Km long and throughput was err.... c**p. It seems that you do not always get joined to the nearest cabinet.

If I get FTTC or FTTH, it would make any difference to my line length, I'm near the end of the line as it is.

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 17:49:27

I'm pretty certain I know where my nearest green cab is going to be (provided they put it at the site of the old one) which is just at the end of the road at the top of the road I am on.

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 17:54:52

Milton Keynes probably has some advantages when it comes to fibre because most of the network was installed to one master plan.

Steve · Jul 19, 2010, 18:23:56

I hope they change the modem or allow 1/3 party as I don't think with the current one you can get any stats from. I think it's a Huawei but openreach have disabled access to the interesting bits

Rik · Jul 19, 2010, 18:24:40

Knowing BT, I doubt that will change, Steve.

DorsetBoy · Jul 19, 2010, 18:35:45

Quote from: Glenn on Jul 19, 2010, 17:47:38
If I get FTTC or FTTH, it would make any difference to my line length, I'm near the end of the line as it is.

FTTP/H should give you a max speed connection, there is no copper to cause a drop in throughput, in Sweden they got 40GB delivery over 200KMs without any signal loss.

DorsetBoy · Jul 19, 2010, 18:38:44

Interesting videos listed at Kitz forum,

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,7686.0.html

BT FTTC

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,7684.0.html

pctech · Jul 19, 2010, 20:37:58

Quote from: Rik on Jul 19, 2010, 18:24:40
Knowing BT, I doubt that will change, Steve.

Hopefully the combined modem/routers will hit the market quickly so the equipment can come back under our control eh?

Rik · Jul 20, 2010, 10:11:06

I have a feeling BT will make it hard for us Mitch, eg a condition of service that we use their modems.

pctech · Jul 20, 2010, 10:59:50

We'll have no choice in the beginning as was the case with engineer install ADSL but once the roll out is complete consumer modem/routers will come out and it'll become a 'wires only' product so BT will give an acivation date, visit the local cab to connect you and then you plug in as you do with ADSL now.

Rik · Jul 20, 2010, 11:09:37

We'll see .

Steve · Jul 20, 2010, 11:15:37

FTTH/P will obviously still require a visit to terminate the fibre network

pctech · Jul 20, 2010, 12:54:17

It will unless we all start getting large routers with pluggable transceivers

Rik · Jul 20, 2010, 12:56:01

I've got a leaking water pipe with plugable holes...

pctech · Jul 20, 2010, 12:57:15