Erbistock villagers quoted £550,000 for broadband link

[Den]

I'm only a couple of mile from you Niall (on the Gresford exchange) but you are on much faster Broadband than me (6.3mb) and I'm not moaning 

[Niall]

I just think it's daft. What I've got is more than enough for me, but I find the whole thing stupid. Having a media battle over 80 houses, saying they will install FTTC when my exchange is serving 21k residential properties, and doesn't have it.

One thing I just noticed on samknows is that they used to have estimated dates for things on the status page, but it just shows that something is available or not now.

[Technical Ben]

I just think it's daft. What I've got is more than enough for me, but I find the whole thing stupid. Having a media battle over 80 houses, saying they will install FTTC when my exchange is serving 21k residential properties, and doesn't have it.

One thing I just noticed on samknows is that they used to have estimated dates for things on the status page, but it just shows that something is available or not now.

BT basically did the same with the word "unlimited" with the phrase "on such and such a date". Samknows realised this, and so dropped all the dates, as BT must be following some Aztec cross Martian calender.

[Den]

Update --- Update --- Update

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11287904

See what you get when you ask 

[Rik]

BT are embarrassed I suspect, Den.

[Lance]

I just think it's daft. What I've got is more than enough for me, but I find the whole thing stupid. Having a media battle over 80 houses, saying they will install FTTC when my exchange is serving 21k residential properties, and doesn't have it.

One thing I just noticed on samknows is that they used to have estimated dates for things on the status page, but it just shows that something is available or not now.

Niall,

Don't get confused between BT who are only offering a move of exchange for £100 but staying with copper, and Rutland who are installing the FTTC solution at the expense of the community (or in this case the Welsh Assembly through a £1,000 per household grant).

[pctech]

Reducing the length of the copper loop is always a good idea.

If you want to work from home you need a bit quicker than 8 meg if you are you working on applications hosted on a LAN.

[Rik]

But 3.5M is perfectly adequate for the forum.

[pctech]

They are Niall, best thing the ConDems could do is force a hand over of the infrastructure which should never have gone into private hands anyway.

[pctech]

But 3.5M is perfectly adequate for the forum.

It is, as is 1.9 but maybe not so good for a remote desktop protocol session.

[Rik]

Luckily, I'm past all that stuff, Mitch.

[kinmel]

They are Niall, best thing the ConDems could do is force a hand over of the infrastructure which should never have gone into private hands anyway.

Those that think that privatisation of the telephone network was a " bad thing " simply do not remember how it was before then.

Up to 6 month wait for a phone line, shared lines, no choice of handset, "all lines are busy, please try again later" and having to book in advance for international calls.

Most of BT's problems now are because the old mindset still exists within BT.

[Rik]

Transatlantic calls that cost £5 for 3 minutes in the 50s...

[pctech]

I was 2 when BT was privatised so you are right Alan I don't remember.  

Not quite sure how a shared line would work but I have a funny sketch forming in my head.

My beef is that instead of wasting money on things like the Millennium Dome the Government should have retained control of the infrastructure and rolled out fibre which would have been better than DSL which would have a positive impact on the economy.

[Rik]

With shared lines, you had a button on the phone to connect to the line, Mitch. If the other sharer was already using it, you just had to wait.

[pctech]

My grandparents' phone must have been high tech then as it just had a rotary dial.

[Rik]

Ours did too - used to wear my fingers out on those things.

[pctech]

It was only replaced in 1995 when they needed an answerphone.

[Rik]

My parents moved to the Trimphone in the 60s. I hated that noise.

[pctech]

Thats one ugly phone.

[Rik]

It was, but very trendy at the time.

[Glenn]

And collectable now.

[Rik]

Inevitably. Ours was a ghastly two-shade green.

[Ray]

Ours did too - used to wear my fingers out on those things.

Even worse when you had to crank the handle on them as well, Rik.  

[Ray]

Inevitably. Ours was a ghastly two-shade green.

Ours was 2 shades of grey, the ringtone on them was enough to drive you up the wall.