Here we go again : ISPs under pressure to control online porn

[Rik]

It's been shown that those without access are disadvantaged at school though, Mitch.

[pctech]

acadenic or socially?

[Simon]

I would guess, both.

[Rik]

Academic, Mitch. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11738519

[pctech]

supervised access after school then?

[cavillas]

Parents took the responsibility to have children, it is their responsibility to bring them up, teach them right from wrong, become respectable citizens and watch over everything the have access to.  Childrens upbringing has nothing to do with the State, Public or Private companies and is the responsibility of the parents alone.  If you want children then you have the responsibility for their lives and safety, if you don't or can't accept that responsibility then DON'T have children.

[Rik]

Hear, hear. 

[Ray]

Agreed, Alf, 

[pctech]

I'd agree Alf but alas most see them now mainly as a way to get money.

[Technical Ben]

Thing is Dorset kids these days would suss that out I bet. Content control can be got around by proxy I bet, were there is a will there is a way, just hide the bl**dy router 

Linux live CD etc I suppose.
Answer, Laptop in the living room for homework, then bed. 

[Niall]

It wouldn't surprise me if this sort of thing is one of the reasons behind the surge in console sales. You can play games, but only use the net monitored by us or in school.

[armadillo]

The Victorians were prudes, but didn't mind child labour, while drug-taking was an acceptable middle-class behaviour. The poor were restricted to gin. Certain religious or cultural groups believe in honour killings - all this in the name of morality. Give me no morals any day.

Exactly!

[Rik]

We are as one, Dill. You should read the Iron Tree if you can get your hands on a copy, I think you'd be nodding your head a lot about what is said, it's a damned good read too.

[armadillo]

I just googled it. Not keen on buying 2nd hand books but would happily buy one if it were in print.

[armadillo]

And another "hear hear" for Alf. 

[Rik]

Most of his stuff isn't, sadly. Might be worth checking your local library.

[armadillo]

Will do.

[Rik]

With a bit of luck, they can get a copy for you if they don't have one. I've read the book several times over the years, and have found its journey through humanity has never failed to move and involve me.

[armadillo]

I'll have to ask them. I just searched the on-line catalogues for York city libraries, Leeds libraries and North Yorkshire libraries and none of them has it. I'll try the british library catalogue next. I used to work there!

[Rik]

Nothing like determination, but it is worth it. His Gweilo and Hiroshima Joe are worthy reads too.

[pctech]

Google books?

[Rik]

Possible, maybe even Kindle.

[armadillo]

Thanks for that. Google books draws a blank. British Library has 2 copies in Reference Division but not available for loan. Usually, they will not allow any Reference Division material to leave the building. People who live in London can go in and use the reading room. A bit too much effort when you're 200 miles away though

OK Rik, I'll try Kindle now!

I can also try online catalogues of other large city public libraries. York could get it via interlibrary loan if I can tell them where the book is.

[Rik]

Good hunting, Dill.

[Gary]

While I totally agree with Alf, ideology rarely gets us where we want these days.