Here we go again : ISPs under pressure to control online porn

[Rik]

It never has, Gary.

[Gary]

It never has, Gary.

True, but when younger I think you hope that it can.

[Rik]

Sadly, I am no longer younger.

[armadillo]

While I totally agree with Alf, ideology rarely gets us where we want these days.

Sadly, I think you're absolutely right. I was wondering what we can do to ensure that the initiative makes no further progress. Writing to an MP will probably do little to change his or her personal opinion. They will oppose or support based on what they already feel. Is there something to be gained in seeking a commitment from our ISP to oppose any attempt by the government to force them into compliance? ISPs should make a stance to preserve net neutrality in which no restrictions are made on the grounds of content.

Is IDnet prepared to do that?

[Rik]

IDNet has indicated in the past it will do no more than it is required to by law, Dill.

[Gary]

Sadly, I am no longer younger.

Glady in some ways nor am I 

[cavillas]

I also think children under the age of 21 should be banned from the internet, it would free it up for us more mature users.

[Rik]

 

At least, by our age, Alf, we know what we're looking for. 

[armadillo]

Thanks Rik. I'm glad IDnet said that.

Alf - great piece of lateral thinking.

[wdforte]

I think both the ISP and the parents have a responsibility to filter access to minors.

[DorsetBoy]

I think both the ISP and the parents have a responsibility to filter access to minors.

Please tell us how any ISP in the world can filter access to minors? How do they identify who is online at any given time ?

[Rik]

It's simple, Dorset. They ask you to tick a declaration that you are over 18.

[Gary]

It's simple, Dorset. They ask you to tick a declaration that you are over 18.

Been doing that since I was 15  I looked older than I was so getting into bars at that age was no problem either 

[Rik]

Naughty.

[DorsetBoy]

It's simple, Dorset. They ask you to tick a declaration that you are over 18.

Exactly Rik, it is impossible, COPPA in the USA was a useless joke of an idea. Anyone able to type a few words can pretend to be any age ,gender or status on the internet.

Look around the coding/webmaster sites to see all the "How can I prevent under 18's accessing my site ?" questions , simple truth is you cannot unless you only allow access to invited known members and even then once they have accessed the site how do you know they didn't leave the log in details for others to use or even pass them to 3rd parties.

[Lance]

I guess the only way would be for any connection to be logged into by the customer at the ISP end of the circut (rather than on the home PC), with the customer having a 'adult' password and a restricted access password.

[pctech]

You mean AOL?

[Rik]

 

[pctech]

I think they did something like that but can't say for sure as never used them.

[Rik]

I had to, at one time, as Adobe had a forum there. Hated the whole experience.

[pctech]

It is really geared for people that buy mass market consumer PCs preloaded with junk that tells them how to use it.

[Gary]

It is really geared for people that buy mass market consumer PCs preloaded with junk that tells them how to use it.

That can be  a good thing Mitch 

[gizmo71]

That can be  a good thing Mitch 

It would be if it worked, but it doesn't - what most people need is simpler stuff, not more instructions.

Unfortunately it's us power users who lose out when our stuff gets dumbed down to lowest common denominator level too.

[Rik]

I  couldn't agree more. And it's not just limited to computers.