Internet Explorer 9 Release Candidate out now

[DorsetBoy]

  Available here >>> http://windows.microsoft.com/ie9   

[Technical Ben]

Your not allowed to post links to viruses and dangerous software you know!  

[Rik]

 

[Simon]

I haven't used IE8 yet! 

[Rik]

Only for MS update in my case.

[klipp]

I'll wait for the final release before updating again.  I use the beta version released a few months ago and have to say it's a really good browser.

[Rik]

You don't have to, klipp, except for Den.

[DorsetBoy]

Good job Den has a sense of humour, he really is a marked man this month.  

Anywhoo, for my money IE9 is an excellent browser, it is way better than fyrepox .

[Rik]

We only pull legs if we know the recipient has a sense of humour. Or is Welsh...

[Simon]

[Den]

 

[Rik]

 

[wdforte]

Good job Den has a sense of humour, he really is a marked man this month.  

Anywhoo, for my money IE9 is an excellent browser, it is way better than fyrepox .

Have just downloaded IE 9 from your link and it zips along (so far) thanks!

[zappaDPJ]

I generally still use Firefox as my default browser out of laziness because I use tools like Firebug almost everyday and I can't be bothered to switch browsers for browsing. Now that it appears Microsoft are starting to embrace web standards, I might have to review that.

Having taken a quick look at IE9 I'm in two minds about it. I certainly don't like the real estate lost to the white box that surrounds the content area. It may only be a few pixels but it's unnecessary and doesn't look good wrapped around dark content. I also found many of the demonstrations Microsoft have on their IE9 site to be totally underwhelming and worse than amateur hour at the comedy store. The rest seems rather good unless of course you are still using XP. I understand the need to break backwards compatibly but that still means hell for web developers.

I'll make a point of using it as a browser for a while to see just how good it really is.

[Den]

I ran IE9 beta on my lap but left IE8 on my desktop just in case as the desktop is my main computer. With release candidate now so good I have updated both computers and wow is it quick and far nicer to use. 

[wdforte]

I ran IE9 beta on my lap but left IE8 on my desktop just in case as the desktop is my main computer. With release candidate now so good I have updated both computers and wow is it quick and far nicer to use. 

Totally agree!  It's really enjoyable

[Technical Ben]

As long as IE remains tied to the OS I see it as too risky. Sorry.

[Den]

The only thing that I have found that it does not like (so far) is Google Maps, Street View. So for now I will use Chrome for that. Otherwise it seems to run so well and it's so easy to change things to suit my tastes. 

[cavillas]

We only pull legs if we know the recipient has a sense of humour. Or is Welsh...

Or hungry Scots people. 

[DorsetBoy]

The only thing that I have found that it does not like (so far) is Google Maps, Street View. So for now I will use Chrome for that. Otherwise it seems to run so well and it's so easy to change things to suit my tastes. 

Street view seems OK for me, what problem are you seeing Den?

[Den]

When I try to go down to street view I get a message that a problem has caused IE to stop working and will have to close. 

[DorsetBoy]

When I try to go down to street view I get a message that a problem has caused IE to stop working and will have to close.  

No problem here with Win7 64 bit Den, just going to load IE9 on my 32bit system and will try it out.  Have you tried using compatability view settings?

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Edit : Fine on my 32 bit system Den.

[pctech]

It's broken some software we support and we found there's an issue with the uninstaller.

[DorsetBoy]

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/7250c2d2-20e1-4f0a-8056-4a6abd9a0f9b


How do I uninstall Internet Explorer 9 Beta/RC?

IE9 is currently a pre-release software and you may need to remove it to get back to a production environment. However, when they try to uninstall through add/remove programs, IE9 is not in the program list but listed under Installed Updates.

You can remove IE9 Beta using the following steps.

1.    Close all programs.

2.    Click Start, and then click Control Panel.

3.    Click Uninstall a Program under the Programs category

4.    In the Tasks pane, click View installed updates.

5.    In the list of installed updates, double-click Windows Internet Explorer 9.

6.    In the Uninstall an update dialog box, click Yes.
Note If you are prompted for an administrator password or for confirmation, type the password, or click Continue.

7.    Follow the instructions to uninstall Internet Explorer 9.

8.    When the uninstall program is finished, restart your computer.

9.    After you restart your computer, open Internet Explorer.

10. Click About Internet Explorer on the Help menu. If Internet Explorer 7 or 8 appears in the About Internet Explorerdialog box, then you have successfully completed the uninstall.

[wdforte]

Can someone help please? Enjoying IE 9 but my home page always shows minimised and I have to enlarge it every time. I've tried expanding it via the arrows at each corner of the page hoping it would solve the problem but unfortunately not successful. Any Ideas? Also, is there a facility to import favourites from another browser (Chrome, FF) ?

[zappaDPJ]

File > Import and export... > Import from another browser in IE9 should offer you the option of importing favourites and feeds from any installed browser.

I'm not sure about the other issue, can you give a little more detail i.e. do you mean the window is minimised or that the content is very small?

[wdforte]

Sorry to be thick, but how do I find File to start me off? The window is minimised

[wdforte]

Found 'File' under tools, but no option for import /export?

[zappaDPJ]

You probably need to activate the Menu Bar to find the correct file option. Right click at the very top of the page (above the content area) and you'll find an option to active various bars including the Menu Bar.

The other issue sounds very strange but it could still be that I'm not understanding the exact nature of the problem. Could you detail the exact steps you take that causes the window to be minimised?

[wdforte]

Cracked the imort/export thingy. Thanks for that.

When I fire up the PC the Home Page is always minimised, thereafter doesn't cause a problem

[DorsetBoy]

Cracked the imort/export thingy. Thanks for that.

When I fire up the PC the Home Page is always minimised, thereafter doesn't cause a problem

Try this :

Start Menu > All Programs > Internet Explorer > Right click on icon in menu> select properties > Select > "Run"  Normal Window (other choices are Maximized/Minimized)

[Den]

Right, after much playing around. IE9 runs fine on my laptop which had a clean install of W7 but will not work with Google street view on my desktop which had a upgrade from Vista to W7. I uninstalled IE9 and ran IE8 and all worked well. I then downloaded IE9 and saved it. I then ran installation from the icon and restarted and ran IE9 again. Same problem so I assume the common denominator is a clean install of windows as opposed to a upgrade.   

[zappaDPJ]

Cracked the imort/export thingy. Thanks for that.

When I fire up the PC the Home Page is always minimised, thereafter doesn't cause a problem

Did Dorset's suggestion work? Good to hear you got the other one sorted

[wdforte]

Try this :

Start Menu > All Programs > Internet Explorer > Right click on icon in menu> select properties > Select > "Run"  Normal Window (other choices are Maximized/Minimized)

Many thanks for the advice. I think I have traced it to an IE9 conflict with Gmail. The Gmail page will not open maximised (it will with Chrome & FF) and I am also unable to change the font when creating a new message. Other than this problem (not too serious) IE9 literally zips along, absolutely love it!

Thanks for your help.

[Technical Ben]

It's broken some software we support and we found there's an issue with the uninstaller.

An issue with a Windows integrated software leaving parts of itself behind? Never!? 

[klipp]

Wasn't going to bother installing this but since it presented itself as an optional windows update I decided to go ahead and install.  Seems a bit faster than the beta and there's a new tab control.

[Den]

As I have upgraded W7 with Service Pack 1,  I thought I would give IE9 another go on my desktop. Just completed it and restarted the computer and guess what, it runs like a dream and will now do all the things it would not do last time. 

[Rik]

Glad to hear it, Den.

[Den]

Thought this might be of interest,

It's time to ditch Internet Explorer 6
Microsoft Internet Explorer is still the dominant browser both on our website and the web as a whole. This week saw the announcement that the latest version of Internet Explorer will be released on 15 March (at 4am in the morning - no, we won't be changing our alarm clocks).
Although Internet Explorer has hit version 9, there are still significant numbers of people using Internet Explorer 6. Microsoft has launched a web site dedicated to persuading people to upgrade here. It'd be easy to write this off as self promotion but there really is no reason not to upgrade Internet Explorer. IE8 is faster and more secure, and includes handy tabbed browsing. So, if you're still using Internet Explorer 6 please upgrade either through Windows Update or on the Microsoft website.

Are you ready Rik?   

[Rik]

I'm ready to continue to ignore IE, Den.

[Glenn]

This week saw the announcement that the latest version of Internet Explorer will be released on 15 March (at 4am in the morning - no, we won't be changing our alarm clocks).

Your clock is already set to 4am 

[Rik]

[Den]

Does that mean you have not even tried it then Rik? You should at least try it before you reject it. IE8 was very good but IE9 seems to be much better and most certainly better than anything else I have tried (including Firefox, opera and Chrome). I think MS have listened to it's users and reacted positively much in the same way as they did for Vista / W7.   

[Rik]

I'm not as impressed by Win 7 or Vista as you, Den. I haven't and won't try IE9, because I'm happy with Firefox for now. If that changes, I'll look at the market afresh, but for now I see no benefit in changing.

[pctech]

Win 7 is good but XP still does the business for me.

[Rik]

What I object to in Win 7 is the 'nanny State' attitude of the OS, Mitch. XP lets me do what I want, and accept responsibility for doing so.

[Den]

I liked my old Ford Prefect, it had four doors, a running board, air powered window wipers and 3 forward gears, Oh and no heater but you could open the front window if it steamed up. But I'm glad I changed and tried something new.   

[Gary]

What I object to in Win 7 is the 'nanny State' attitude of the OS, Mitch. XP lets me do what I want, and accept responsibility for doing so.

XP is to old I think Rik, its gettin g hard to maintain safely that's my only thought on that really, and the "nanny state" is not really an issue, I like it on the laptop, you get used to it fast and at least you are a bit safer.

[Gary]

As I have upgraded W7 with Service Pack 1,  I thought I would give IE9 another go on my desktop. Just completed it and restarted the computer and guess what, it runs like a dream and will now do all the things it would not do last time. 

Apples Safari 5.0.4 Microsoft's IE9 were the first two bowsers to get hacked at pwn2own 2011. I was hoping for better things from both as IE9 looks so much better, saying that I don't use either at this time.

[Den]

But one assumes that with the release version of IE9 this week that will be less likely to happen now 

[Rik]

XP is to old I think Rik, its gettin g hard to maintain safely that's my only thought on that really, and the "nanny state" is not really an issue, I like it on the laptop, you get used to it fast and at least you are a bit safer.

I'm so long in the tooth, Gary, that the nanny state does matter to me. I object strongly to being told what I can and can't do.

[Technical Ben]

Does that mean you have not even tried it then Rik? You should at least try it before you reject it. IE8 was very good but IE9 seems to be much better and most certainly better than anything else I have tried (including Firefox, opera and Chrome). I think MS have listened to it's users and reacted positively much in the same way as they did for Vista / W7.   

"try it before you reject it". Only if you prove it's non fatal first!   

[pctech]

What I object to in Win 7 is the 'nanny State' attitude of the OS, Mitch. XP lets me do what I want, and accept responsibility for doing so.

I'd agree which is why on a Vista or 7 system I turn off UAC.

[Rik]

I also make mine look like XP.

[pctech]

 

[Den]

It's much harder to make XP look and perform like W7 

[Rik]

Luckily.

[Den]

No, just not capable of improving that much.   

[Technical Ben]

It's much harder to make XP look and perform like W7 

Not if you have a Windows 7 DVD... 

[Gary]

I'm so long in the tooth, Gary, that the nanny state does matter to me. I object strongly to being told what I can and can't do.

Surely though if its to protect the OS thats a good thing, that's a bit like telling the fire safety officer to bog off you are fine then wondering why your house burned down, saying that if it does what you need that's fine, but in ten years a lot has changed in security and xp was a sieve to start SP@ helped but the leaps forward with Vistas security and the polish on seven make it well worth while I think. Saying that the upgrade and reinstall of all your favs can be daunting, I guess if its not broke...

[Gary]

I'd agree which is why on a Vista or 7 system I turn off UAC.

You turn of UAC? Its hardly annoying and is designed to protect at a level you can't, so many decent security sites warn against that as well...each to their own though, if we were all the same I would have no one to argue with 

[Steve]

It is a bit odd turning a security setting off I guess one approach is to have two accounts and use the UAC on account for general use and a UAC off account for admin purposes . My fear with UAC off would be that something may slip past my attention whereas with a separate UAC off account I would be using it for a specific admin purpose so I should be concentrating.

[Lance]

Uac has never bothered me as using the pc in a everyday useage scenario (email, web and documents) means you don't ever see it.

[sparkler]

UAC in windows is poorly implemented and the black screen and sound is annoying linux's way of getting root rights is way better

also is this better than IE9
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

[Rik]

Surely though if its to protect the OS thats a good thing

It is, Gary. OTOH, I find using Win 7 makes me less productive, eg in XP I have a shortcut set up to create a system restore point. In 7, I seem to have to jump through hoops to do the same simple task. Using it for 'non system' activities, the transition is relatively seamless, but that's not the case at 'low level'. I appreciate that it's more secure, just as newer cars etc would be. OTOH, in 29 years of computing, the only viruses and malware I've seen have been on other people's machines.

[Simon]

I've only had one 'virus' in 10 years, and I never identified that, so it may not even have been one. 

[Rik]

Rhinovirus?

[Simon]

Err... 

[Rik]

The common cold.

[Glenn]

I installed this yesterday, it instantly broke Outlook 2007, I couldn't open any links in emails.

[Rik]

Great.

[Ray]

No problem with Outlook 2010 though.

[Rik]

Now that doesn't surprise me. Simple cure, "You need to upgrade your copy of Office, sir".

[Ray]

  well it is MS we're talking about, Rik, 

[Glenn]

I found an MS registry fix for if IE8 is removed, all is good now.

[Rik]

 

Got a link, Glenn, in case anyone else is affected?

[Glenn]

I'll see if I can find it again, but it may have to wait until I get home tonight

[Rik]

Thanks.

[Technical Ben]

I'd agree which is why on a Vista or 7 system I turn off UAC.

I'd agree, except I've got use to it.
It must be better, to adopt the Linux way of doing it, to ask for "permission" to do any important changes to the PC. This helps prevent unauthorised access to your computer. So it asks "are you sure you want this to run. Is it your program." If I don't recognise it, it's a virus etc. Linux also asks for permission to install and change things. It means less slips through, and even legit programs cannot trick the customer into installing addware.

However, I have found it's troublesome with the transition. As older programs are not expecting Windows to complain, and do not use the correct file folders. So you get programs wanting to save settings in "program files/ini" instead of "my documents/ini" and windows blocking it.
I don't know how it worked in Vista. But in Windows 7 it's easy enough to click "yes" or "add admin rights/use xp compatibility".

[Glenn]

Got a link, Glenn, in case anyone else is affected?

As promised http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310049

[Rik]

 

[kinmel]

IE 9 has now been formally released.   Download your version from here

[Rik]

Is that an order?

[Gary]

Since its already been hacked along with Safari it shows how safe it is because safari is awful for safety  The bad guys always are one step ahead.

[Rik]

And they usually have MP after their names...

[Gary]

And they usually have MP after their names...