question about static ip address

[sparkler]

hi im thinking about moving to idnet from talktalk after they halved my upload speed so im waiting to hear from idnet if i can get back up to 700-800 range anyways i was wondering if they also do dynamic and how much do extra static ip addresses cost

[Simon]

Can't help with the technical stuff, sorry, but

I don't think they offer dynamic IPs, though.

[Lance]

Hi and welcome to the forum. IDNet issue a static ip address as standard and as far as I know don't offer dynamic addresses.

[sparkler]

thxs and damn i won't beable to hope from one ip address to another to avoid access restrictions anymore but file sharing my linux iso should be easier

[pctech]

Why would you need to circumvent access restrictions?

[Rik]

Welcome to the forum, Sparkler. As has been said, all IDNet IP addresses are static, so you'd have to use a proxy to achieve your aims.

[Ray]

 

[SSK]

Why would you need to circumvent access restrictions?

I'm only guessing here, but it may be related to the fact that some download sites (rapidshare?) restrict access to people who are not paying-members. They do allow people acessing for free but they have to wait for a set amount of time (1 hour?) before they can do another download. Maybe if you can swap your IP address you get the server to accept you as a different non-paying-member, so you can download another file without waiting whatever time is set.

Sean

[Adam]

thxs and damn i won't beable to hope from one ip address to another to avoid access restrictions anymore but file sharing my linux iso should be easier

Most places have fairly long leases on dynamic addresses, usually around 24 to 72 hours, so even with a dynamic IP address getting around IP based access restrictions is limited. There are other options though like a proxy or VPN.

[sparkler]

I'm only guessing here, but it may be related to the fact that some download sites (rapidshare?) restrict access to people who are not paying-members. They do allow people acessing for free but they have to wait for a set amount of time (1 hour?) before they can do another download. Maybe if you can swap your IP address you get the server to accept you as a different non-paying-member, so you can download another file without waiting whatever time is set.

Sean

yep also some video sites as well don't like why people use them when there are less annoying download sites available

Most places have fairly long leases on dynamic addresses, usually around 24 to 72 hours, so even with a dynamic IP address getting around IP based access restrictions is limited. There are other options though like a proxy or VPN.

i can swap my ip in seconds just by pressing apply on the basic settings screen and reconnecting i was also able to do it with bt when i was with them and using vista by disrupting my connection between my pc and router then performing a diagnostic on local network connection and choosing the get new ip address option

[Adam]

i can swap my ip in seconds just by pressing apply on the basic settings screen and reconnecting i was also able to do it with bt when i was with them and using vista by disrupting my connection between my pc and router then performing a diagnostic on local network connection and choosing the get new ip address option

Some larger ISPs do assign a different IP on each reconnect. It depends entirely on the DHCP setup within each ISP.

[sparkler]

By completing this order you are agreeing to switch your calls back to BT.

this is what you get for terminating caller features so my switch over might be delayed as although the indian person on the phone said im not getting transferred i don't trust them

[Rik]

Move your landline to IDNet and cancel from there. You'll save money too.

[sparkler]

im waiting on my mac code from talktalk at the moment before i can switch

[Rik]

Shouldn't take more than five working days.

[sparkler]

day 4 today and still no mac and there slower than bt as i got my mac from them quickly other people have had problems with them so i might have to mention that i might have to talk to ofcom and just incase they be a pain in the ass and disconnect me i got idnet phone number saved on my pc

[Adam]

If you are on TalkTalk LLU then you don't need a MAC to move to IDNet (or any BT based supplier). As far as I am aware TalkTalk only offer broadband on their LLU network, so you shouldn't need a MAC.

[zappaDPJ]

In addition to that, since 2007 it's been a compulsory requirement that ISPs provide you with a MAC within five working days so they are sailing close to the wind regardless.

[sparkler]

i was with tiscali before they got taken over by talktalk and needed a mac to join them so i presume i need to get one from talktalk as i never got a letter saying they were moving me to LLU and i don't think llandrindod wells is LLU enabled

[Adam]

If you try your number in the BT wholesale checker (linked below) it should tell you if you are LLU or not. If you are on LLU the number won't be found in the BT database.

http://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

[sparkler]

BT Wholesale
THE BROADBAND AVAILABILITY CHECKER

For Telephone Number on Exchange LLANDRINDOD WELLS

Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 7.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 6.5Mbps and 8Mbps.

The actual stable line speed supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use. This speed may change over time, to ensure line stability is maintained.

If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.

Thank you for your interest.

Please note that postcode and address check results are indicative only. Most accurate results can be obtained from a telephone number check.

Note: If you already have a Broadband service enabled on this line and you want to switch service providers, you will need to contact both your current provider and your new provider to get your service changed over new and existing service provider to have this service transferred.

[Steve]

As far as I am aware whether your on LLU or BT ,IDnet will accept a MAC from TalkTalk and as previously mentioned they have five days to comply with a request otherwise Ofcom should be involved/mentioned

[Adam]

That confirms you are on a BT based service and will require a MAC to migrate. I would email or call TalkTalk and push them on the matter as they are obliged to provide the MAC and there is nothing stopping them from doing so.

[Adam]

As far as I am aware whether your on LLU or BT ,IDnet will accept a MAC from TalkTalk

TalkTalk uses full MPF LLU which is not supported under the MAC system. Only partial LLU and BT wholesale based services use the MAC system.

[sparkler]

well i messaged them again and screenshot it after submitting it

[Simon]

TalkTalk uses full MPF LLU which is not supported under the MAC system. Only partial LLU and BT wholesale based services use the MAC system.

Under those circumstances, what's the process to switch providers?

[Rik]

As Adam says, a MAC is no use to you. You'll have to do a cease and re-provide or ask for a conversion. The latter costs ~£100. In either case, you'll be without broadband for a while.

[sparkler]

another thing my phone/internet line that i get my internet and phone from is with BT does this make a difference?

[Rik]

Yes, you're not on full LLU, so you can use a MAC in that case.

[sparkler]

yay all i need isa mac now and this will be the first contact with talktalk ive ever had

[Adam]

Under those circumstances, what's the process to switch providers?

There are a few ways to switch from full LLU to BT; the 'best' way is for a simultaneous provide order to be placed by the receiving ISP/voice supplier. This means both services should be active around the same time, but it can be costly. Another method is to transfer your voice service back to a BT based supplier using either return to donor or the letter facilitation process, this will mean downtime for the broadband but may work out cheaper. In both cases you will probably be charged an ADSL activation fee.

To move from full LLU to full LLU is a little simpler, in theory, you should be able to place your order with the new supplier and they will arrange the migration. However some LLU suppliers require a BT line to sign up for whatever reason, in this case they will either migrate you to BT WLR first then place a full LLU order with Openreach or some require you to get back to a BT line yourself.

The whole process is really a mess and from experience often goes wrong due to the larger ISPs being mostly clueless.

[Simon]

Thanks Adam.  Useful info. 

[Steve]

Thanks

[sparkler]

i have my bloody mac code finally

[Rik]

 

Everything comes to he who waits, but only for five working days.

[sparkler]

well ive ordered just have to wait and see if the mac code is correct as i got it over the phone from some Indian guy instead of email were i can copy paste it

[Rik]

IDNet will soon tell you if it's wrong.

[sparkler]

done a speed test while im still with talktalk so much for my lines 5-8mb's

[Steve]

I think you've missed the decimal point before the 5

[sparkler]

sorry typo XD

[sparkler]

i found a letter from talktalk and did get the make wrong a put a D instead of a B and it had an extra number in it so sent email to idnet

[Adam]

If you put your number and MAC in the website below it will tell you if the MAC is valid.

http://adsl24.co.uk/checker/mac/

[sparkler]

question when do idnet send your connection details as im supposed to be switching on the 10th and i haven't got connect details yet and im worried :/

[Rik]

Usually quite quickly, give them a ring if you're worried.

[sparkler]

i think ill try contacting them tomorrow as i don't want to be without internet again

[sparkler]

Thank you for contacting TalkTalk Customer Support.

Upon checking our system, I am unable to locate your acount on our system. In order for us to access the account please provide us the following:


^ well they managed to send me a letter with my mac code in it and also im somehow connected to the internet :/ also seem his pc doesn't have a spell checker on it

[Rik]

Great, a bad boilerplate reply.

[sparkler]

and they wanted this info

1.Complete name
2.Complete Address
3.Post Code
4.Telephone Number
5.Account Number
6.Date of Birth

they asked for this which was entered on the website form before sending it. also do idnet send your details for connecting to there network in an email or by mail

[Rik]

Email.

[sparkler]

ok i got it now and the password sucks it has no caps or (&@}{~/'£* in it i think ill have to change it when im connected and put it in keepass

[Rik]

Unless things have changed, you can't change it (you can change your login to the portal, though).

[sparkler]

Broadband Order Completed For

im now with idnet but not connected until 6pm also my bill seems to be £10 out could be because im still connected to talktalk as thats what im using atm


i have 832kb upload back XD

[Rik]

It's difficult for us to comment on billing, you really need to talk to IDNet on that.

[sparkler]

ive found out why my phone service hasn't been transferred yet and ive already used 732mb peak download who needs p2p when you have youtube lets plays to suck up your download limit

[Glenn]

Have an offical  now you are on an IDNet IP.

[sparkler]

thanks