Firefox 4 released

wecpcs · Mar 23, 2011, 23:09:40

Quote from: Rik on Mar 22, 2011, 17:42:03
Any bad reports yet?

My Norton Toolbar does not work with it (where I use the Identity Safe all the time), so promptly went back to the previous version. So I only had it on for less than 30 secs.

olin

.Griff. · Mar 24, 2011, 01:33:14

Quote from: wecpcs on Mar 23, 2011, 23:09:40
My Norton Toolbar does not work with it

Perfect opportunity to get rid of a truly nasty piece of software.

Norton that is.

Den · Mar 24, 2011, 07:30:33

When did you last use Norton? I have just moved from Norton 2011 to Norton 360 and both are superb. I would rather keep Norton than use a browser that will not run properly.

Glenn · Mar 24, 2011, 07:52:50

So you have removed IE9?

Gary · Mar 24, 2011, 08:07:12

Quote from: wecpcs on Mar 23, 2011, 23:09:40
My Norton Toolbar does not work with it (where I use the Identity Safe all the time), so promptly went back to the previous version. So I only had it on for less than 30 secs.

olin

Toolbars are the work of satan

Simon · Mar 24, 2011, 10:03:22

Have to admit, toolbars aren't my bag either. I'd rather have something less cluttersome and intrusive.

tehidyman · Mar 24, 2011, 13:14:34

Firefox 4 does not appear to give me any advantage and has changed a layout we were familiar with and preferences and options do not enable me to rearrange. What is the safest way to reinstall Firefox 3.6?

pctech · Mar 24, 2011, 13:20:17

I quite like having more of the screen devoted to the page.

Gary · Mar 24, 2011, 13:28:38

Quote from: tehidyman on Mar 24, 2011, 13:14:34
Firefox 4 does not appear to give me any advantage and has changed a layout we were familiar with and preferences and options do not enable me to rearrange. What is the safest way to reinstall Firefox 3.6?

You can change ff4 to look like 3.6 if you want you can customise most of it. 3.6 is very out of date really, and looks old, Chrome and IE9 and Opera look like FF4 now. you can have your bookmarks toolbar etc move your home button around back to where you like, you can even put icons in the tab bar and there are add-ons should you want a status bar. Like Mitch I like the uncluttered look, pinning tabs is great and its just so much faster.

Not sure if you can just install 3.6 over 4 i would think remove it which keeps your profile and then install 3.6 google and see. Realise though that 3.6 in the end will be a dead end as 4 will replace it eventually and then 5 some day.

Technical Ben · Mar 24, 2011, 14:35:10

Why do the companies insist on copying the worse of each others GUI designs? They copy the best features, but worse look and feel.

Fire fox 3 was great for tabbing and layout. Then Internet Explorer copied it, and did so badly. I hate the IE layout. So what to Mozilla do with firefox 4? Copy the horrid design of IE.

Guess I'll have to play around with settings then.

zappaDPJ · Mar 24, 2011, 14:57:29

Quote from: Gary on Mar 24, 2011, 08:07:12
Toolbars are the work of satan

I have to agree with this which is why I like the current Firefox layout. Every toolbar is a line of lost content and in generally a row of rarely used or replicated features. I'm still rather liking Firefox 4 and I've now switched back to it from IE 9 for everyday browsing.

pctech · Mar 24, 2011, 15:20:08

Agree on toolbars, only two I have or had were Nectar to collect points (but does not work on FF4 at the min) and Netcraft which shows me what country an IP resolves to and the registered IP address owner.

tehidyman · Mar 24, 2011, 16:07:55

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 23, 2011, 14:40:14
The first thing I did was move the home button and bookmark list

I am struggling to move my home icon from extreme right to somewhere on the left. Help appreciated. Managed to sort all the rest.

Glenn · Mar 24, 2011, 16:15:19

Right click above the address bar, then from the drop down list, select customize, you can then drag, add or remove items.

zappaDPJ · Mar 24, 2011, 16:15:47

This is where I placed mine, right click the icon, hit customise and moved to the new location. What I couldn't do for some reason is put the Bookmarks icon next to it but I was happy to have it below that location in the end.

tehidyman · Mar 24, 2011, 16:32:14

Have moved home. Thanks guys

Technical Ben · Mar 24, 2011, 16:42:20

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Mar 24, 2011, 14:57:29
I have to agree with this which is why I like the current Firefox layout. Every toolbar is a line of lost content and in generally a row of rarely used or replicated features. I'm still rather liking Firefox 4 and I've now switched back to it from IE 9 for everyday browsing.

Of all people my mother had 50% of the screen space taken up by toolbars. I tried to ask what it was. She said "It comes like that does it not?" Or "But the smiley face buttons". I did not agree or disagree. (As it's a lost cause IMO.

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Personally. I hate em.

What has happened to the tabs? They have added all the buttons onto the tab itself? I thought that was a "window". The point of tabs is they are "in" the "window". If you put them on the top, they become "windows". Oh, I'm getting annoyed at GUIs again... gonna need to have a seat and calm down...

Rik · Mar 24, 2011, 16:59:43

Time for a bucket of champagne to take the pain away, Ben.

vitriol · Mar 24, 2011, 20:31:58

I've been using it quite a bit today and I'm liking it.

Technical Ben · Mar 24, 2011, 21:55:50

If they are going to copy chrome, I may as well move on to that.

D-Dan · Mar 25, 2011, 01:45:03

Set my toolbar up so everything is on the one (FF menu, buttons, tabs and location bar) - screenshot is Linux but I have a shared profile (and so the same is true on Windows). Apart from that one line, the whole screen is devoted to content, just how it should be

I like FF4.

Steve

drummer · Mar 25, 2011, 03:12:15

I've now tamed the beast and - hand on heart - this version of Firefox is the bestest browser it's been my pleasure to use.

psp83 · Mar 25, 2011, 07:40:35

Here's mine

Made a few changes to the userChrome.css file to move the tabs up (where the firefox button/menu was)

gizmo71 · Mar 25, 2011, 07:46:54

The way it handles open tabs on restart seems quite broken - FF3 was very good at figuring out what caused it to close and restoring just the right stuff; FF4 doesn't seem to understand the different between "user closed individual windows" and "system shut down". The "Restore Previous Session" just about works for the latter, but it's a manual action and seems a retrograde step. Worse still I manually closed a load of tabs on my work PC before I shut down last night, including some popup phpMyAdmin windows, and when I started it up today it spontaneously tried to pop them all up again.

It also looks quite different on XP than W7 which feels wrong (but is arguably right

).

Gary · Mar 25, 2011, 08:35:17

I decided I needed to change it back to look like 3.6 but I like tabs on top, I use the bookmark bar for Justina but hated the show bookmarks at the end which took up space, so I unticked show bookmarks tool bar removed show bookmarks from it in that mode, then re-opened the bookmarks toolbar and it was gone. Since the Mac has the firefox menu above the browser having two lots of bookmarks was not intuitive, much happier with the way it looks now.