Firefox 4 released

Technical Ben · Mar 29, 2011, 08:49:44

Yes. IE has access to things other companies/software does not. Just how Macs and Windows are not compatible. Diesel and Petrol are not.
It's not a limit on the technology, nor the programmers or software. It's a limit on the contracts, patents, and ownership. Just as HP and Epson try to lock people out of the ink cartridge market, Microsoft try to lock (or have no reason to open up) their extra features in IE9.

In principle I refuse to use Silverlight. If you cannot open up your product, I don't want to use it!

Gary · Mar 29, 2011, 09:01:37

Some sites are still coded for IE I noticed some CCTV sites say IE only, as I see it that's either coding for the masses and hoping you get it right, but it does assume the universe uses Windows of they are just being a bit lazy, either could be the case. Opera, Chrome and Safari all have had the same problems, as well as IE not rendering, its generally the webmasters site not the browser, but not always as has been pointed out. ~~Indescribable Excrement~~ IE is still I believe losing to other browsers though even though version 9 is much better, but it took a kick to get it there.

D-Dan · Mar 29, 2011, 10:13:18

Personally, especially with commercial sites, if I encounter any that will not work properly other than with IE I send them a polite email informing them that they will not receive any business from me until such time as they stop making their product exclusive to Windows and IE users.

I don't know if it works, since I rarely re-visit after a browser failure of this nature.

Having said that, the only site I've found in the last 12 months that doesn't work is Namesco's speedtest, and this isn't s FF issue (it works fine on FF Windows) but is that they appear to have coded their site for Windows users.

Steve

Steve · Mar 29, 2011, 10:24:46

The namesco speedtest is ok on OS X

pctech · Mar 29, 2011, 17:57:33

Maybe they code some sites to give the best user experience? IE is much better at handling multimedia than Firefox used to be

Rik · Mar 29, 2011, 18:00:34

I thought that was a post from Den for a second, Mitch.

pctech · Mar 29, 2011, 18:01:55

He does talk a lot of sense.

Steve · Mar 29, 2011, 18:05:03

Does that mean FF4 is now better at handling multimedia than it used to be? Or does the differing abilities relate to the performance with regard to MS proprietary multimedia extensions with which IE should I feel perform better.

Rik · Mar 29, 2011, 18:14:09

Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 18:01:55
He does talk a lot of sense.

Careful, he'll start framing your posts.

Den · Mar 29, 2011, 19:49:38

Just because I don't hate MS for the sake of it and am willing to try before I reject (if I do)

pctech · Mar 29, 2011, 21:02:09

Use whatever does the particular job well.

Winodws for all round stuff, Macs for art stuff, Linux for servers and the Apple Xserve for ?

Technical Ben · Mar 29, 2011, 21:29:48

Oh, windows does art stuff too!

Niall · Mar 29, 2011, 21:48:53

I installed IE9 before to see what it was like, as I'm off work ill. Apparently I have this lovely noro virus thing. Joy.

Anyway, on install it wanted me to turn off all my AV & anti spyware/malware protection (like that's going to happen), so I just rebooted instead. On launch the first thing I noticed was that it isn't the junk filled, bloated mess that IE8 was. I didn't get much further than that as I was a bit ill, and went back to bed.

How's that for a review?

Simon · Mar 30, 2011, 00:30:08

So, in short, IE9 made you sick.

Gary · Mar 30, 2011, 07:41:01

Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 21:02:09
Use whatever does the particular job well.

Winodws for all round stuff, Macs for art stuff, Linux for servers and the Apple Xserve for ?

Macs do all round stuff as well Mitch because Apples are round too

Rik · Mar 30, 2011, 09:12:37

Cor!

Gary · Mar 30, 2011, 09:22:07

Quote from: Rik on Mar 30, 2011, 09:12:37
Cor!

Rik · Mar 30, 2011, 09:28:24

Technical Ben · Apr 01, 2011, 16:50:04

Quote from: pctech on Mar 29, 2011, 17:57:33
Maybe they code some sites to give the best user experience? IE is much better at handling multimedia than Firefox used to be

I find the opposite. IE loaded up every piece of unwanted video or music and plaster it over my screen. In Firefox I use AdBlock Plus to remove anything I don't want.

pctech · Apr 01, 2011, 16:53:04

Can't beat getting plastered from time to time

Rik · Apr 01, 2011, 17:07:59

Oh I don't know though...

pctech · Apr 03, 2011, 18:47:07

Den · Apr 22, 2011, 13:50:41

MS and IE keep getting slated because they keep bringing out updates so they must be very faulty.

On that bases Firefox must be the best.

Oh wait, I have just found this.

Firefox 5 comes out on the 21st june so then it really will be the best.

Hang on, wait again.

Firefox 6 comes out on the 16th of August so now it will rule the world.

Hang on, hang on wait again.

Mike Belzner Mozila's Director of Firefox has stated that Firefox 7 will come out in 2011

I think I will stay with IE9 for now,

pctech · Apr 22, 2011, 19:14:54

Rather have the bugs spotted and fixed quick than long delays for MS.

Den · Apr 22, 2011, 20:03:27

So why don't they correct them for version 6? It smacks of pushing some thing out even though you know it's not ready for use. If MS did this you would all be up in arms.