Any problems tonight?

[Niall]

In that case I'll leave routerstats running for a while longer before sending the logs to IDnet to look into.

[Niall]

Ah, it's going the other way now.

* Niall stares at stats

[Simon]

You'll be hooked before you know it! 

[Niall]

While I've been smushing baddies in Supreme Commander 2, something went pop

See attached

[Steve]

It was possibly a burst of noise and then you resynced. Certainly a dropped connection anyway.

[Rik]

Noise or errors, Steve, it has to be one of the two.

[Steve]

If it's errors I wonder if a router swap may be worth a trial.

[Rik]

Always.

[Niall]

I'm not sure which way to go, but am once again leaning to router issues. Routerstats stopping logging at 7:52 but I could still browse the web. I think something on the routers logging is knackered, and if that's the case it's not unreasonable to think the router is the source of all evil

Oh and my camera arrived this morning on the way out making me late for work ad I had to wait 10 mins for the bloke to get the delivery tool working! Not even had time to open the box. Roll on 5pm!

[Rik]

I'd have brought it to work with me.

[Niall]

The box was huge! It's got a free bag, the camera, battery grip, memory card, battery and a free hd camera. Bit too much to carry on my bike

[Rik]

Oh the pain! Still, just 20 minutes to go...

[Niall]

Got it now. Had to charge the battery which took a while. Christ this camera is vastly different to the 30D. I can honestly say I have no idea where some of the functions are that I use regularly are! I like the flip out screen on it; that will be very handy for macro shots at odd angles.

Currently reading through the manual, which I didn't think I'd have to do! Oh, and I've suddenly got a cold out of nowhere. That's annoying!

Oh yeah, my connection dropped earlier too and it's back to what it was last night. Whatever is wrong, seems to go wrong around the same time each night. No idea why. Ho hum.

[Rik]

Which suggests cyclical electrical noise, Niall. Anything turning on in the house at that time?

[Niall]

Nope. Everything is as it was. I removed everything I could. Nothing below me and the router is in the corner of the room away from the electrics. I suppose it's possible that there's an issue with the wiring in the house, but I'd have thought that's unlikely as there's been no issues at all.

In a couple of months I'll be getting rid of my old TV and replacing that, which isn't anywhere near the router anyway. This room has always had electrical interference for radio though, I have to place the radio near the sockets, oddly. In the centre of the room it's a bit picky.

Despite that though, I only started having problems a while ago after years of trouble free internet. I'll be very surprised if it's anything physical in the house that's causing it, plus the router isn't sitting near any power sources, other than the cable it's powered by!

Anyway, below reinforces my thoughts that it's not that as there was nothing powered in the house today while I was at work:

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Wed, 2011-06-08 09:01:03 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:02:06 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:02:06 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:02:07 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:03:29 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:04:29 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:04:29 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:04:29 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:04:47 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:05:46 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:05:47 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:05:50 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:08:19 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2011-06-08 09:08:20 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:15:00 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:16:01 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:16:01 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:16:02 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:16:55 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:17:56 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 10:17:56 - LCP is allowed to come up.

And this makes me think it's the router:

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Sat, 2000-01-01 00:01:26 - Initialize LCP.
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:01:26 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:01:30 - CHAP authentication success
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:01:37 - Send out NTP request to time-g.netgear.com
Tue, 2011-06-07 17:50:53 - Receive NTP Reply from time-g.netgear.com
Tue, 2011-06-07 17:51:28 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.2
Tue, 2011-06-07 17:49:15 - Router start up
Tue, 2011-06-07 19:01:08 - LCP down.
Tue, 2011-06-07 19:02:11 - Initialize LCP.
Tue, 2011-06-07 19:02:11 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Tue, 2011-06-07 19:02:12 - CHAP authentication success
Wed, 2011-06-08 00:55:28 - LCP down.
Wed, 2011-06-08 00:56:31 - Initialize LCP.
Wed, 2011-06-08 00:56:31 - LCP is allowed to come up.

Unless my router travels in time, it seems to be losing it's settings on a regular basis, which could realistically mean it's fooked!

[Lance]

Nothing powered?

So no fridge? No hot water?

I'm just highlighting that there probably is something turned on! Unfortunately, it could even be something kicking out noise at your neighbours.

[Rik]

As happened to me recently.

[Niall]

Thats actually quite possible. Since they moved in next door, years ago, that's when I started having trouble with radio reception when I'd had nothing troublesome for 20 years previously!

I'm pretty sure it's something to do with his huge DIY satellite dish.

That being said, my router being weird makes me look harder at that than something that's not effected 4 different routers previously.

[Rik]

Ideally, it's down to methodical elimination, Niall. Have you got a battery-powered MW radio?

[Niall]

Not any more. My grandad had it during his last days in the care home and the nurse dropped it

I have actually thought of something it could be. I've got a tower fan thingy here (like an obelisk that chucks out air ) that I've only been using since it was hot. I'm wondering if it's shielded as that could well be the source of problems. I've unplugged it anyway and chucked it on the landing. Also I've noticed that my monitors screen has a slight flicker, so I'm now wondering if there's an issue with that, that could be causing it.

I'm buying a new monitor next month anyway, so when I get that I'm planning on pulling out all the cabling, getting rid of the analogue TV and using one of them as a TV. That way I can get rid of the DVD player and use the bluray on a monitor I have now which will instantly eliminate two power sources. I've also been pondering handing the router on the wall, high up, just to get it as far away as possible from power sources. Some plastic cable tidy things would make it barely noticable in the corner too, so that's a decent plan.

Then I shall cover my house in foil.

[Rik]

Aldi have battery-powered radios on offer Sunday, if you have a branch handy:

http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_19274.htm

£14.99

[Niall]

To be honest, I'm not really in a rush. Yes the problems are annoying as hell, but I need to watch the dosh this month for the London trip. I know I'll end up buying a B.B.King hat and T-shirt I'm off for two weeks as of the 24th, so I'll start playing around then

[Niall]

Well, fingers crossed, I think I've found the source of the problem.

Yesterday I decided to get rid of my old Iiyama CRT monitor that was taking up a LOT of space as I don't need the second monitor for what I was using it for, and the image quality is far too poor on it now sadly. Fantastic monitor for the best part of a decade that thing I was using the USB hub base for my printer, etc but I've now bought a dock for the front of the PC for that.

Anyway, after moving that the flickering on my main monitor has stopped and the router hasn't disconnected more than once. When it did re-sync the profile went back up to 14k with the good old 1100 upload again. Hopefully this was the source of my problems, but every time I post here with hope, something goes wrong. Time will tell (normally about 10 minutes after posting ). Oh, I also upgraded the firmware too, which I'm sure is the same build number but has a different prefix on it. The logging is working again on the router too, with this new firmware.

[Rik]

It's a definite candidate for the source of the problem, Niall, the HT power packs on CRTs could pump out a lot of noise.

[Niall]

My cat is happy too. He can lay out on the desk now, all smug