Lion

Tacitus · Jun 14, 2011, 07:55:38

Quote from: pctech on Jun 13, 2011, 17:17:58
Will be interesting to see what happens long term but while they are trying out all this stuff I have to say I'm somewhat concerned about how I'll end up making my living

Might be a good idea to brush up on your OSX/Linux/Unix skills

Apple seem to have dropped the idea of producing servers for the heavy lifting and accepted that market has gone to Linux/Unix on hardware such as HP Proliants. Lion will have the option of buying the server OS as a cheap add-on so it will be a no-brainer for workgroups and small business. Inevitably these will need some hand holding, so I would have thought there is/will be, a market in consultancy to those sort of businesses.

The Mac mini-server is quite a capable machine for small groups of users and if it came with hybrid drives and plenty of RAM, could be even more so. Mac-Mini Colo in the US have developed a viable business doing co-location solely with Mac mini servers. Somebody is trying the same idea in the UK - no idea whether it's a branch of the US Co.

Might even be a money spinner for iDNet. I believe Simon's a Mac user so no doubt he already has the skills.

pctech · Jun 14, 2011, 14:23:23

I think you are right Tac.

Steve · Jul 13, 2011, 14:19:47

Well tomorrow the 14th July seems a likely date I've seen it mentioned in a variety of places I guess we'll find out later tomorrow in the UK. A 4Gb download is going to test the servers.

pctech · Jul 13, 2011, 14:42:47

Chances are they are making use of Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and Limelight. this means the download should in theory be quicker for the user and will shift the load off Apple's servers.

Gary · Jul 13, 2011, 14:45:16

Quote from: Steve on Jul 13, 2011, 14:19:47
Well tomorrow the 14th July seems a likely date I've seen it mentioned in a variety of places I guess we'll find out later tomorrow in the UK. A 4Gb download is going to test the servers.

Hence I will wait to maybe October/November etc firstly see what goes wrong in the first few weeks, secondly never use a first release of any OS is a known good move, and thirdly not untill at least 10.7.2 is out and some bugs are squashed, also I may not actually want it.....

pctech · Jul 13, 2011, 15:48:57

'tis why XP is still so popular.

Steve · Jul 13, 2011, 15:57:39

I will happily place it on my Macbook Pro and see how it goes before I even think about installing it on the machines my wife uses. I did think about doing a dual boot but that's a nuisance having to install all the other related software again

FWIW I used SL from day one and the only problem I recall (senility is marvelous) was a lack of compatibility with my works Email Exchange Server- but Leopard didn't have that function anyway.

It's not going to cost a fortune and a clone of the hard drive will be taken prior to install.

lozcart · Jul 13, 2011, 16:43:52

I will do the same, try it on my Macbook first before installing it on the families main iMac.

Steve · Jul 13, 2011, 16:47:38

Might give me chance to try out 'Apple remote desktop' as an install method for the other machines.

Steve · Jul 13, 2011, 20:29:38

Sad I know but 9to5mac has said Lion will be available from 0100 tomorrow in the UK,I won't though be staying up.

Technical Ben · Jul 14, 2011, 08:38:58

What? You cannot schedule an update?

Steve · Jul 14, 2011, 08:48:00

You have to pay,but it didn't happen anyway.

Technical Ben · Jul 14, 2011, 14:05:58

Steam have it sorted. You can pre-order. As long as the client is open, it will automatically update or download on release.
In fact, the auto updater is so good, it's difficult to turn it off at times. If you want to curtail your bandwidth usage at times.

Gary · Jul 15, 2011, 12:50:54

Quote from: Technical Ben on Jul 14, 2011, 14:05:58
Steam have it sorted. You can pre-order. As long as the client is open, it will automatically update or download on release.
In fact, the auto updater is so good, it's difficult to turn it off at times. If you want to curtail your bandwidth usage at times.

Because you really want an auto update when you are not around of your operating system to a whole new version

Lance · Jul 15, 2011, 13:11:36

As long as you have to set it rather than it be done automatically I can't see why not?

Steve · Jul 15, 2011, 13:18:47

I tend to do a bit of preparation before a major OS update which has to be done manually i.e up to date disk clone,file integrity and permissions check. If I could guarantee the previous and the install was ok unattended I might think about it.

For all those waiting, SL, Leopard Panther and Tiger all came out on a Friday towards the end of the month , then Apple cleared off for the weekend

Gary · Jul 16, 2011, 07:55:52

Like steve I like to prepare, also I like to do some work after to make sure all is as it should be, nothing in the software world is truly perfect, nothing like waking up to a non booting computer...

Rik · Jul 16, 2011, 08:04:48

A non booting body is worse.

pctech · Jul 16, 2011, 10:52:52

Indeed Rik, I know which I'd rather have.

Gary · Jul 16, 2011, 13:53:55

Quote from: Rik on Jul 16, 2011, 08:04:48
A non booting body is worse.

Our home looks like a hospital now with rails and bed mechanisms to help me up and emergence things in case I fall in the wetroom etc

so non booting lower body is sorted. I do need to boot cold callers though

Rik · Jul 16, 2011, 16:51:37

Steve · Jul 18, 2011, 22:37:14

Looks like Wednesday this week , maybe?

Instructions to burn an install DVD http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/18/make-an-os-x-lion-boot-disc/

Gary · Jul 19, 2011, 07:44:33

Lion could be the OS that makes windows/Linux even an abacus look attractive...this whole download install thing is to much. So is digging around in finder etc, I just built a machine at scan (due to tech reasons I had my iMac replaced so have two weeks to say yay of nay and since the thunderbolt macs came out BTO Macs QC have been awful, anyway I could for £300 less build a great Windows seven machine I can upgrade myself with a 1Gb MSI GTX 560 Ti GPU, the i7 2600k version of the chip I have, not the 2600s and still have 8GB memory, an 850 watt silent PSU for future upgrades a Gigabyte Z68 mobo, an extra internal 6Gbs Western digital green 1TB hard drive as well as a 6Gbs 1 TB WD Caviar black System drive (SSD still to expensive) two optical burners including one blu-ray hitting 24x and 10x respectively rather than 8x and a 24" Samsung LED monitor and have £200 in the bank....Its tempting.

Technical Ben · Jul 19, 2011, 09:12:24

So practically twice the PC for half the price? If I'd looked at it like that, I'd ditch windows for Linux and save £100 on top of it too.

Steve · Jul 19, 2011, 11:11:11

Quote from: Gary on Jul 19, 2011, 07:44:33
Lion could be the OS that makes windows/Linux even an abacus look attractive...this whole download install thing is to much. So is digging around in finder etc, I just built a machine at scan (due to tech reasons I had my iMac replaced so have two weeks to say yay of nay and since the thunderbolt macs came out BTO Macs QC have been awful, anyway I could for £300 less build a great Windows seven machine I can upgrade myself with a 1Gb MSI GTX 560 Ti GPU, the i7 2600k version of the chip I have, not the 2600s and still have 8GB memory, an 850 watt silent PSU for future upgrades a Gigabyte Z68 mobo, an extra internal 6Gbs Western digital green 1TB hard drive as well as a 6Gbs 1 TB WD Caviar black System drive (SSD still to expensive) two optical burners including one blu-ray hitting 24x and 10x respectively rather than 8x and a 24" Samsung LED monitor and have £200 in the bank....Its tempting.

Sounds like an upgraded version of your previous Windows machine, not for me though I despair every time I get near the Windows 7 machines in the house everything just takes me so much longer. I don't play games so Windows is still a non starter for me.