Windows 8

Ted · Jun 14, 2011, 09:05:37

I can't find reference to this anywhere, so...

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2011/06/02/first-look-at-the-windows-8-interface/?

Gary · Jun 14, 2011, 09:10:58

Lots about it on Twitter, windows 8 would appear to be based on HTML5 and JavaScript, predominately, thats a big change and one many engineers are alarmed about.

http://www.osnews.com/story/24846/Windows_8_HTML5_JS_Comment_Causes_Panic_Among_Developers

Ted · Jun 14, 2011, 09:13:51

Quote from: Gary on Jun 14, 2011, 09:10:58
Lots about it on Twitter

I don't do Twitter

Rik · Jun 14, 2011, 09:14:56

Me neither, Ted, it's too cheep.

Ted · Jun 14, 2011, 09:16:30

Quote from: Rik on Jun 14, 2011, 09:14:56
Me neither, Ted, it's too cheep.

Unlike Windows!

Rik · Jun 14, 2011, 09:23:37

Gary · Jun 14, 2011, 09:45:37

Quote from: Ted on Jun 14, 2011, 09:13:51
I don't do Twitter

Shame lots of news on there before it hits the TV and papers, its quite useful in that respect you get to hear things without the taint of the big channels on TV or the agendas of the tabloid rags. I never saw the point in it until I realised how to actually use it. Its not about people tweeting about what they had for lunch, its a vast well of information.

zappaDPJ · Jun 14, 2011, 10:08:06

That's the first I've seen of Windows 8 and it looks fantastic, light years ahead of the clunky-clicky operating systems we are using today. I do wonder if they took some inspiration from the Cooliris 3D wall which I've been using daily for quite sometime.

I'm really looking forward to seeing some more, thanks for the link Ted

D-Dan · Jun 14, 2011, 11:57:34

I actually blogged about why Windows 8 may help promote Linux into the business world, here - http://linux2012-windows8.blogspot.com/2011/06/2012-year-of-linux.html

Steve

Gary · Jun 14, 2011, 12:26:58

I think it just looks like the Windows phone and I dislike that, all this touch feely stuff is horrid for your main machine, it may look simple and fast but I think its designed for smaller hand held computers not desktops which at this rate will be gone within a few years, the world of the tablet is coming of age maybe. Either way I don't think I would upgrade the laptop to what looks like a catalogue for Ikea.

Rik · Jun 14, 2011, 12:30:37

I hope the instructions are better.

Simon · Jun 14, 2011, 12:54:14

And the knobs don't fall off.

zappaDPJ · Jun 14, 2011, 13:03:34

I always completely ignore Ikea's assembly instructions but I usually find I've got 2 drawers left to assemble but only one knob left in the box

Simon · Jun 14, 2011, 13:06:08

The other one must have been nobbled.

zappaDPJ · Jun 14, 2011, 13:09:23

Simon · Jun 14, 2011, 13:13:53

pctech · Jun 14, 2011, 14:07:18

I've also read that key Kernel files will be served (heres that phrase again) 'from the cloud' in a bid to see off piracy though its going to be dressed up as rebootless updates for customers.

This means that MS will be able to break stuff at will and there will be no system restore so rolling back won't be an option.

I'm giving some serious thought to writing to Steve Ballmer (though thats probably the same as p***ing in the wind) because changes like these may make sense for MS but will be a nightmare to support.

I do think the plan is to get people to sign up to service and support subscrptions with Microsoft which of course gives them direct control and recurring revenue.

Gary · Jun 14, 2011, 14:35:24

Quote from: pctech on Jun 14, 2011, 14:07:18
I've also read that key Kernel files will be served (heres that phrase again) 'from the cloud' in a bid to see off piracy though its going to be dressed up as rebootless updates for customers.

This means that MS will be able to break stuff at will and there will be no system restore so rolling back won't be an option.

I'm giving some serious thought to writing to Steve Ballmer (though thats probably the same as p***ing in the wind) because changes like these may make sense for MS but will be a nightmare to support.

I do think the plan is to get people to sign up to service and support subscrptions with Microsoft which of course gives them direct control and recurring revenue.

Ballmer will though a chair at you, Jobs will steal your soul...

pctech · Jun 14, 2011, 14:38:06

Ted · Jun 14, 2011, 15:32:59

Quote from: pctech on Jun 14, 2011, 14:07:18
I've also read that key Kernel files will be served (heres that phrase again) 'from the cloud' in a bid to see off piracy though its going to be dressed up as rebootless updates for customers.

If I read that correctly, it means the machine downloads "bootfiles" to authenticate the OS, if that's right then what happens when you have no "cloud" connectivity?

pctech · Jun 14, 2011, 15:39:57

From what I've read it'll use backups of the last ones.

Rik · Jun 14, 2011, 16:33:13

Either way, I just don't like this idea - I want control of my machine, not to have it reliant on others. If the hackers ever attack the cloud, we're all in deep doo doo. I think I may just have to move to *nix.

pctech · Jun 14, 2011, 17:00:40

There's also ReactOS http://www.reactos.org which is built on the NT kernel which I may switch to for day to day computing dual booted with ubuntu.

zappaDPJ · Jun 16, 2011, 17:32:49

Quote from: Rik on Jun 14, 2011, 16:33:13
Either way, I just don't like this idea - I want control of my machine, not to have it reliant on others. If the hackers ever attack the cloud, we're all in deep doo doo. I think I may just have to move to *nix.

You won't like Google's Chromebook then and neither do I, it's a really horrible piece of controlware.