New Firmware for Fritz!Box 7390

[Ardua]

Apologies, but if you had posted the new update here as per normal we wouldn't have got our wires crossed. All your own fault really

Fon had an update yesterday, just the one though

I often use 'advancing years' as an excuse; however, on this occasion .........  Have a look at my Reply 17 dated 22 December (Beta Firmware 21362 which according to Fritz! Labs is still current). Glad that the confusion is now resolved

[FritzBox]

I often use 'advancing years' as an excuse; however, on this occasion .........  Have a look at my Reply 17 dated 22 December (Beta Firmware 21362 which according to Fritz! Labs is still current). Glad that the confusion is now resolved

Yep I did notice that..........................................................yesterday

Errr advancing years anyone

[FritzBox]

Beta Firmware 21362

No disconnections now for 10 days, a new World Record, well, for me anyway.
It's getting better and better with each firmware update

[Glenn]

Where do you download the beta firmware from?

[Ardua]

Where do you download the beta firmware from?

Google Fritz!Labs and click on the 7390 on the bottom LHS. You should back up your firmware and download the recovery file just in case: that said, I have not had any problems to date with betas. My connection has remained stable now for 42 days with this beta: I suspect that they have tweaked the SNR settings. There is a newer beta version on the Aussie site and there are 3rd party links to it on the whirlpool forums. I intend to wait until Fritz!Labs is next updated or a newer firmware version is released.

[FritzBox]

Where do you download the beta firmware from?

Have you got one Glenn?

[Glenn]

I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.

[Greyshadow]

I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.

Glad you have one on order. just remember , I think he is a one man band and sometimes he is a bit slow on the messaging.

I have given him a polite rollicking before now about his lack of keeping his customers informed of the order progress..

I have mine set up with one of the Fritz!fon MT-F phones registered to the base station and 1 older analogue phone plugged into FON 1.

One thing to be aware of is if you put the Beta firmware on you lose all the help info in the web gui , so maybe an idea to put the last Official release (    84.05.06 ) on for a few days get yourself set up before you put the beta on.

For me caller ID is showing , but some users are still having problems.

This might help sorting out any little problems you might encounter:
http://service.avm.de/support/en/SKB/FRITZ-Box-7390-int

[Ardua]

I see from the AVM website that they will be releasing a new FB VDSL router at CEBIT next month.

[Greyshadow]

I see from the AVM website that they will be releasing a new FB VDSL router at CEBIT next month.

Is that the LTE one, (4g).
[edit] No its not :
Two new FRITZ!Box models for DSL with more bandwidth and WLAN possibilities

AVM is delivering yet more bandwidth and WLAN possibilities thanks to two new FRITZ!Box models for DSL connections, which will be unveiled at CeBIT.

While one is ideal for anyone just starting to use VDSL and meets all your communication requirements, the other is ideal for surfing the Internet at breakneck speed and lightning-fast home networking thanks to improved WLAN throughput and range.


They are also doing a cloud service. myFRITZ. Suposed to be Germany only for the time being.

[mervl]

I have one on order from the chap Greyshadow mentioned in the other thread, it will be going on my FTTC line.

Glenn, I'd be interested (if you've an unlocked modem currently, especially) in comparison line stats between the OR modem and the Fritz!Box 7390 used as a modem, if you do so. There seems to me a lack of VDSL comparison information for the Fritz! in the UK, which would be especially useful for those of us with less optimum lines that struggle to achieve the full 40/10Meg. I have a suspicion from my limited information that it has achieved a margin of up to 5Mbps over the supplied modem both initially on the 8c profile and now on 17a, in my case, and brought forth a rise in the download profile accordingly.

I expected newer models to be announced from AVM since their chipset manufacturer Ikanos introduced their faster 300Mbps chipset a year or so ago though, of course, cost and the infrastructure limitations also affect the speeds actually available to consumers! From my experience the wireless performance currently isn't great compared to other routers - although using dual 2Gz/5Gz spectrum I can get a reported 108Mbps link (and higher) at up to 10m with their Fritz!Stick throughputs are no better than any other wireless router so I'd expect them to try and improve this, if they want to claim a premium product. 

[Glenn]

Mervl, I haven't got an unlocked modem, but I have been offered the use of one, so could possibly compare the results.

[mervl]

No probs Glenn. Just a comparison on the BT Speedtester say after its settled down for a week or so would be good enough. My experience is complicated by the first use of the Fritz! and the 17a/998 profile move occurring at the same time by bad luck or bad judgement, take your pick.

[Greyshadow]

Beta Firmware Version 84.05.09-21821 has just been released by AVM for the Fritz!Box 7390.   

http://www.avm.de
FRITZ! Lab - New Features and Improvements
New with version 84.05.09-21821:

    DECT: all 17 characters of the FRITZ!Box name are displayed
    DECT: connectivity improvements for handsets in babyfone mode
    DECT: FRITZ!Fon display improvement for fetching E-Mails and RSS-feeds with the messages-key
    DECT: FRITZ!Fon display improvement for call waiting indication with active telephone line
    DECT: filter for call numbers for international numbers
    DSL: DSL event log added to push-mail
    DSL: corrected PowerLED behaviour during UTMS fallback operation
    WLAN: changes in system events for internet over wireless lan
    WLAN: wireless LAN activation / deactivation now availible while internet over wireless LAN is active
    WLAN: Fix for some WDS channel settings in WDS 2,4 GHZ mode that could not be changed.
    WLAN: improvements for the manual channel setting
    WLAN: improvements for wireless lan communication
    WLAN: improvements of the display of WMM-properties
    WLAN: intermittent limiting to 130 Mbit/s in WDS mode fixed
    WLAN: improved WDS longtime stability with client-roaming
    WLAN: improvements of the reliability of the wireless lan module with more than 30 devices in MAC adress filter
    Telephony: Enhanced Google phone book support (amount of numbers no longer restricted, type changeable, update button added)
    Telephony: import of google contacs restricted to entries with call numbers
    Telephony: adding of call numbers to telephone books with many entries improved
    Telephony: improved display of the answering machine
    Telephony: fix for answering machine message deletion after disabling usb-storage
    Telephony: display of "Umlaute" for IP-telefones corrected
    Telephony: flexible amount of call numbers and changeble number types for online telephone books (i.e. Google Contacs)
    Telephony: Setup of online telephone books improved (i.e. Google Contacts)
    Telephony: Support for longer names and call numbers in telephone books
    Telephony: fixed memory leak
    Telephony: fixed problems with "Umlaute" and special characters in telefone books with google contacts
    Internet: fixed online meter for internet via lan1
    Internet: improved internet account configuration page
    Internet: added various internet providers for various countries
    Internet: 24-hour disconnect can be deactivated again
    Internet: Online Monitor shows currently used DNS servers
    Internet: NEW - use an existing internet connection via Wireless lan
    Internet: (child protection) restricted clients can be changed to unrestriced
    Internet: improved display of custom DNS v4 servers
    Internet: Show name of configured internet-service provider on the startpage
    Internet: improved parallel use of telephony and internet-download
    Internet: new settings for exposed host and ping6 in the IPv6 permissions
    Internet: new settings for coexistence with other IPv6 routers in your network
    Internet: removed repeating drops with activated IPv6 filters
    Internet: automatic Wake on LAN for IPv4 and IPv6
    Internet: removed repeating multicast-drops on clients that are restricted by child protection
    Internet: closed a possible exploit of the child-protection using an unrestriced IP adress
    Internet: improved stability in ATA mode
    Mediaserver: sort folder view by filename
    Mediaserver: sort album view by ID3-track number
    Mediaserver: sort general view by ID3-title
    Mediaserver: improved interoperability with Sony TVs
    MyFRITZ!: added new service "MyFRITZ!" as a possiblity to access your FRITZ!Box from abroad (currently only available in german)
    Home Network: ethernet-devices connected to a repeater are no longer listed as wireless devices
    Home Network: improved display of FRITZ!WLAN repeater ip-address
    Home Network: improved display of FRITZ!Powerline linkrate
    Home Network: added message when changing the FRITZ!Box name
    Home Network: removed double or wrong entried in Network device list
    System: New - Name of FRITZ!Box and FRITZ!OS version on the start-page
    System: used DynDNS-server listed on startpage
    System: improved stability
    System: fixed problems with Chrome-plugin AdBlock
    System: no autofilling of passwords
    System: removed possible crash when receiving fax
    System: improved push-mail content
    System: fixed problem that could lead to no voice data on IP-phones
    System: fixed possible crash when sending push-mail
    System: New - push-mail now contains DSL information
    System: added push-mail for IP- and WDS-Clients
    System: new event log entry for calls using mobile/GSM
    System: better date/time display in event log
    System: wireless devices no longer shown as inactive while they are connected
    System: improved stability during firmware update
    System: added configurable push-mail for missed calls and IP address changes
    System: alphabetic sorting of DynDNS providers
    System: removed crash when using two FRITZ!Boxes in LAN and wireless mode at the same time
    Storage/NAS: New - change name of workgroup
    Storage/NAS: online-storage box.net now using https
    Storage/NAS: optimised caching with online-storage
    Storage/NAS: updated content of internal storage (factory reset required)
    Storage/NAS: fixed access rights of internal storage
    USB: improvied read-performance of FAT-partitions
    UMTS: Voice-transmission for Huawei K3765

   

[Ardua]

Thanks. I may be skip this one as the previous beta has resulted in a stable connection now for 57 days. Let us know how you get on. I gather from the Aussie forums that AVM hasn't resolved the phantom call issue.

[Lance]

That's a long list of updates and changes!

[Ardua]

OK - I gave in and I have installed the new beta. No problems whatsoever updating. My reconnection was at 16.9Mbps (up 0.5) with a downstream SNR of 5. This box seems to prefer 5 to 3! IPv4 and 6 are working fine. It will be interesting to see whether the box now disconnects and reconnects to IPv6 every few days as was the case with the old beta.

With 3 updates to the Fritz!Box Fon firmware and 2 betas for the the FB7390 in the past couple of months, I assume that a FB7390 firmware RC cannot be too far away.

Out of interest could anybody post or PM me the FB7390 settings for FTTC. I see in another place that there is an ongoing discussion about whether VDSL is Annex A or B. Thanks

[Ardua]

Out of interest could anybody post or PM me the FB7390 settings for FTTC. I see in another place that there is an ongoing discussion about whether VDSL is Annex A or B. Thanks

Found the answer that I was seeking in the new Mom'ILC FB forum. Jury still seems to be out on whether BT Infinity is Annex A or B. The FB7390 seems to work with either setting on FTTC.

[Greyshadow]

Found the answer that I was seeking in the new Mom'ILC FB forum. Jury still seems to be out on whether BT Infinity is Annex A or B. The FB7390 seems to work with either setting on FTTC.

I've been using Annex a from day 1 and it's been pretty stable..... Might try annex B in a couple of days just to see if there is any difference

As regards the settings for FTTC, you can set up using the wizard, but need to go to Expert Mode(adavanced settings) to be able to set the Vlan to 101 , otherwise it will fail at a PPPOe  stage.

[Glenn]

Hopefully Mohamed has sent my box today 

[Steve]

I thought BT VDSL was annex B - that's what the hacked HG 612 seems to report. 



http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099641-re-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html

[Ardua]

Twenty Four hours on and this new beta release seems to be very stable with a very low ADSL2+ error rate.   The update also seems to have solved a problem with the GUI. Since setting up my router to receive IPv6 (on a Mac), I found that changing a settings page on the GUI could result in the GUI logging out as the page refreshed. My uniformed guess was that this was due to the way that the Mac OS selects the fastest data stream irrespective of whether its is v4 or v6. Whatever - it seems that AVM have resolved this issue.

PS  If you are new to the FB, you use a Mac and you are thinking about updating the firmware then remember that the recovery tool is not Mac OSX compatible. According to those that know about these things the recovery tool needs to be run from a Windows PC or a MAC running Windows on Boot Camp or a 3rd party emulator. That said, I have never had a problem updating this box using a downloaded file or via the GUI updater.

[Greyshadow]

I thought BT VDSL was annex B - that's what the hacked HG 612 seems to report. 



http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099641-re-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html

Just switched over to annex B today , been connected since 03/03/2012 at 12:19 seems okay at the moment, slightly fewer errors, but far to early to judge yet.

[Steve]

This new technology is confusing, I'd been trying to understand how if Annex A is incompatible with UK BT VDSL that the Fritz!box actually works as an FTTC modem utilising Annex A. However since I posted the first link to TBB the thread has moved on. We now discover we have what seems Annex B plan A and Plan B which perhaps explains things, I'm still confused as to which is the correct one for the Fritz!Box assuming all FTTC is now on VDSL Profile 17a


http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4099949-how-to-get-a-fritzbox-7390-working-as-a-vdsl-modem.html

[mervl]

I wonder on further reflection Steve if Annex A/B on the Fritz! only refer to ASDL settings NOT VDSL. Don't forget that unlike the HG612 the Fritz! has both ADSL and VDSL compatiblility. In my experience either setting makes no material difference on VDSL (FTTC). (What information there is suggests that Annex B is for countries with ISDN lines - which makes me think that it's NOT a VDSL setting. The trouble is that saying Annex A or B, without identifying which DSL standard you are referring to is meaningless. Add ITU-T G.992.3 Annex B Band A and Band B into the mix (to give its full title for VDSL, and also known as Bands 998 and 997 respectively) and its even more confusing!)

It's part of the joy of using a "different" modem. AVM aren't very forthcoming with information, and the Fritz! isn't designed for customisation by those who like to fiddle. If it works why worry? On a poor line (Annex A) and 40/10 service the BT Speedtester gives me a consistent 38/38.71 IP profile and maximum download throughput which means I'm not complaining - better than I believe some of you get on the 80/20 service with much better lines! I can't wait until users start paying the premium - I hope for BT's sake they get it sorted!