Steve Jobs resigns as CEO

Lance · Aug 25, 2011, 22:54:48

Even though it is competitively priced against other tablets?

Steve · Aug 25, 2011, 22:57:10

And it's been an unbelievable success,they're selling extremely well.

Lance · Aug 25, 2011, 23:26:00

Quote from: Niall on Aug 25, 2011, 20:20:00

There is a LOT of room for improvements, but we know they wont do a sodding thing to improve how the iphone works, or is set up.

Really. I thought iOS version 5 is just about to be released so I make that 4 major improvements (assuming each update is an improvement). In fact, iOS 5 is one if the biggest improvements they've made, with computerless setup, icloud and twitter integration, delta updates over the air, wireless sync with iTunes and much more I can't remember off the top of my head or that I even know about.

Simon · Aug 25, 2011, 23:28:25

I hope iCloud isn't going to be compulsory, or limits other features if you don't use it.

Lance · Aug 25, 2011, 23:48:58

I don't think it is yet, Simon, but I wouldn't be surprised if in two or three years phones cone with limited storage built in.

Simon · Aug 25, 2011, 23:54:47

I don't see it being popular to stop people storing their own data on their own devices, by their own choice. I know, sometimes, "Apple" and "choice" don't quite go together, but that would be taking things too far, in my opinion.

Gary · Aug 26, 2011, 07:03:05

Quote from: Simon on Aug 25, 2011, 23:54:47
I don't see it being popular to stop people storing their own data on their own devices, by their own choice. I know, sometimes, "Apple" and "choice" don't quite go together, but that would be taking things too far, in my opinion.

I think windows will head that way too, the times are changing for storage and even your own OS.

Technical Ben · Aug 26, 2011, 10:00:26

Quote from: Niall on Aug 25, 2011, 20:20:00
I'm hoping that Apple will now ditch the restrictive itunes with iphones, and allow you to use what bleedin ring tones you want on your own phone that you pay a bloody fortune for....

That was the only original feature stopping me from getting an Iphone. I only use my phone on silent/vibrate now. But back then, I had my own recordings etc for ring tones. I liked to have music etc for each caller. On my existing phone I could set a different one per person, for FREE! Yet everything on the Iphone was restricted or absent from the feature list.

PS
I expect the "cloud" to be as successful as electric cars. It's a good idea in theory, nearly impossible in practice.

zappaDPJ · Aug 26, 2011, 10:45:19

Quote from: Technical Ben on Aug 26, 2011, 10:00:26
I expect the "cloud" to be as successful as electric cars. It's a good idea in theory, nearly impossible in practice.

I'm not sure about that. I'm also not sure that I like the idea but I think it's easy enough for the big providers to ensure its success whether we like it or not. I suspect the concept of 'owning' (which of course you don't in reality) a piece of software is about to go out of the window. There's a definite move towards purchasing a slab of time on a product rather than the product itself. It has so many major advantages for the provider I honestly can't see it not happening. Whether the end user benefits in any way at all is probably more a matter for debate.

Inkblot · Aug 26, 2011, 11:12:10

I suspect that if every person that uses it only stores encypted files in the 'cloud' it won't be successful. From my (Cynical) point of view the biggest advantage is to the host (Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook or whoever) in that they will be able to interrogate your standard format (.docx, .xlsx, .pdf, etc.) data and learn more about you for advertising purposes. Naturally, close to 100% of people have no clue about these things and will just go along with it ensuring bigger profits for the providers.

pctech · Aug 26, 2011, 11:43:57

Quote from: Simon on Aug 25, 2011, 22:08:09
Apparently you can, on iOS5.

It's only taken 4 years to do what I could on an SE W300i 5 years ago.

Tacitus · Aug 26, 2011, 11:48:30

I think the biggest advantage of iCloud - at least to an iPhone/Mac user - will be the ability to sync calendars, address books and so on, across multiple devices. Switch on the device and it automatically syncs, the only problem being that you can't encrypt these whilst they're on Apple's servers. It will be ease of use that sells it to the masses, although provided you can do your own sync over your home LAN, a great many might not bother.

AFAICT there's no problem with storing other stuff in an encrypted form, just like you can do with DropBox, SugarSync and doubtless others. Apple has not really said much so we'll have to see.

Lance · Aug 26, 2011, 12:14:32

Quote from: pctech on Aug 26, 2011, 11:43:57
It's only taken 4 years to do what I could on an SE W300i 5 years ago.

So this doesn't get muddled in the cloud discussion... looking back, this quote relates to ringtones. One of the first things I did when I got my 3GS was put a custom ring tone on it using nothing more than iTunes and windows explorer (to change a file extension). I've had the same ring tone ever since so don't know if it is still possible to do this.

Simon · Aug 26, 2011, 13:05:02

It is, Lance, and it seems that facility is now being extended to message tones.

pctech · Aug 26, 2011, 15:33:43

Yep apologies Lance, posted it just as I was about to finish my lunch break.

Simon · Aug 26, 2011, 22:41:44

Tim Cook in charge of Apple? Wait for the headlines....

''Cook promises to improve Apple turnover''.

Lance · Aug 26, 2011, 23:02:09

Technical Ben · Aug 26, 2011, 23:14:08

Quote from: zappaDPJ on Aug 26, 2011, 10:45:19
I'm not sure about that. I'm also not sure that I like the idea but I think it's easy enough for the big providers to ensure its success whether we like it or not. I suspect the concept of 'owning' (which of course you don't in reality) a piece of software is about to go out of the window. There's a definite move towards purchasing a slab of time on a product rather than the product itself. It has so many major advantages for the provider I honestly can't see it not happening. Whether the end user benefits in any way at all is probably more a matter for debate.

Oh, I would think I own it as soon as it reaches my HDD. However, I do not have the power, and probably no right, to take it or keep it when the heavies show up.

Niall · Aug 27, 2011, 09:24:23

Quote from: Simon on Aug 26, 2011, 22:41:44
Tim Cook in charge of Apple? Wait for the headlines....

''Cook promises to improve Apple turnover''.

Haha

Ray · Aug 27, 2011, 09:27:50

Rik · Aug 27, 2011, 11:21:45

Quote from: Simon on Aug 26, 2011, 22:41:44
Tim Cook in charge of Apple? Wait for the headlines....

''Cook promises to improve Apple turnover''.

You should go on HIGNFY.

Simon · Aug 27, 2011, 11:28:03

Steve · Aug 28, 2011, 11:36:21

Not a bad little sweetener to do the job well and stay for awhile

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/mapping-babel-10017967/apple-awards-cook-a-million-shares-10024218/

Rik · Aug 28, 2011, 11:41:15

And how, Steve.

.Griff. · Aug 28, 2011, 17:50:44

I'm not sure how genuine these photos are but he doesn't look well at all - http://www.pudelek.pl/artykul/34663/szef_applea_po_ogloszeniu_rezygnacji_foto/