How much

woppy101 · Oct 02, 2011, 13:48:05

How much would it cost to upgrade an exchange to FTTC that hold 626 residential premises and
29 non-residential premises.

Steve · Oct 02, 2011, 14:25:02

My guess is that it's too small for BT to consider FTTC.

woppy101 · Oct 02, 2011, 14:31:46

What about if bt didn't have to pay,The only reason I ask is our green cabinet is 4km from the exchange and serves around half of the 600 lines(I'm on a army camp).the army would pay the majority of the cost to put FTTC so I'm trying to find out a ballpark price to go to the QM with

Technical Ben · Oct 02, 2011, 14:32:38

An awful lot? Why, you offering to sponsor me to get FTTC?

From ElRegio

QuoteAs a result of the subsidy all 1,350 premises in Iwade, near Sittingbourne, will be offered theoretical maximum download speeds of up to 40Mbit/s from Autumn....

...In Iwade, the Parish Council's money helped pay to connect four street-side cabinets to the Sittingbourne exchange via fibre optics. The Parish Council provided £13,000 - about £10 per premises - for the work from a County Council grant, and BT provided the remaining £62,000.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/08/bt_iwade/

So. This is the maths moment. Got your thinking hat on? Well here we goooo....!
£13,000 from the Council plus £62000 from BT for 1,350 premises is around £55.56p per house hold. We will lump in business premises with residentials, as there is little difference. So, 655 properties costs 36,388.89p to install FTTC, before paying for each properties router/line/etc. Not too bad a price really. But for BT to install they would need the customers to make worth it. Perhaps 50 or so, I'm not sure on the overheads or profit margin they are aiming for.

Is FTTC just a change in cabinets, or exchange equipment too?

Rik · Oct 02, 2011, 16:29:36

Exchange and cabinets, Ben.

.Griff. · Oct 02, 2011, 16:34:42

In addition to however much it might cost you may need to apply for planning permission as well.

woppy101 · Oct 02, 2011, 16:47:35

Quote from: .Griff. on Oct 02, 2011, 16:34:42
In addition to however much it might cost you may need to apply for planning permission as well.

I woulndnt think any planning permission would be requred,the exchange backs onto the airfield and then the line comes across the airfield onto camp

Technical Ben · Oct 02, 2011, 18:55:42

Which is probably why we are not all town planners, we don't expect these things.

Simon · Oct 02, 2011, 23:00:24

I thought all town planners did was to arrange simultaneous road works, in several parts of the town, so as to make things as difficult as possible for people.

woppy101 · Oct 03, 2011, 08:13:58

Quote from: Simon on Oct 02, 2011, 23:00:24
I thought all town planners did was to arrange simultaneous road works, in several parts of the town, so as to make things as difficult as possible for people.

yes but only in the school holidays

Athena · Oct 04, 2011, 11:11:04

Or on the day you need to get to that vitally important meeting, or because the sound of roadworks OUTSIDE YOUR BEDROOM WINDOW is considered theraputic on a Sunday. It turns out they do work on sundays, but only when they know they can annoy someone...

Glenn · Oct 04, 2011, 18:54:43

Quote from: woppy101 on Oct 02, 2011, 13:48:05
How much would it cost to upgrade an exchange to FTTC that hold 626 residential premises and
29 non-residential premises.

This maybe of some use as a guide, £500,000 from BT or £50,000 from Rutland for 80 homes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-11166119

Technical Ben · Oct 04, 2011, 19:13:38

The prices seem to vary wildly. But I guess the line length does too. So places like Rutland are extremely spread out. Towns and cities have much less digging to do.

woppy101 · Oct 04, 2011, 20:23:01

this is the route the bt line takes from the exchange the bt engineer did it for me (approx 3.9km to the green box)all trunking is underground our green box has 500 avalible lines only 350 are connected

red dot=exchange
black line =route of line

Edit: map removed, now at reply #31

Technical Ben · Oct 04, 2011, 20:42:37

Is it wise to post that?

[edit]
Think we have discovered the problem. Disconnects happen when planes land?

woppy101 · Oct 04, 2011, 20:47:47

Quote from: Technical Ben on Oct 04, 2011, 20:42:37
Is it wise to post that?

[edit]
Think we have discovered the problem. Disconnects happen when planes land?

Lol yeah stupid planes it's every time they bump over the wires

On a serious note why woulnt it be wise to post that?

Simon · Oct 04, 2011, 20:57:29

Isn't it an army base? Are there not rules about airiel images, even if I can't spell airiel?

Steve · Oct 04, 2011, 21:09:10

Well it's straightforward google map,viewable by any one with an internet connection.

woppy101 · Oct 04, 2011, 21:11:20

Quote from: Simon on Oct 04, 2011, 20:57:29
Isn't it an army base? Are there not rules about airiel images, even if I can't spell airiel?

No mate it's not area 51 lol( we use MLRS not hand held nukes

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Simon · Oct 04, 2011, 22:47:21

Fair enough.

.Griff. · Oct 04, 2011, 23:05:31

RAF Ouston aka 39th Regiment Royal Artillery?

pctech · Oct 05, 2011, 01:31:06

Quote from: .Griff. on Oct 04, 2011, 23:05:31
RAF Ouston aka 39th Regiment Royal Artillery?

Oh he can't tell you that otherwise he'd have to kill you

woppy101 · Oct 05, 2011, 06:26:01

Quote from: Simon on Oct 04, 2011, 22:47:21
Fair enough.

it was a joke mate

woppy101 · Oct 05, 2011, 06:26:42

Quote from: .Griff. on Oct 04, 2011, 23:05:31
RAF Ouston aka 39th Regiment Royal Artillery?

yes mate

Technical Ben · Oct 05, 2011, 11:36:31

Quote from: woppy101 on Oct 04, 2011, 20:47:47
Lol yeah stupid planes it's every time they bump over the wires

On a serious note why woulnt it be wise to post that?

Not the photograph, but the overlay of the communications wires. I'm no expert, but would those in charge be happy that the world and his dog know how to cut comms/intercept comms?