IOS5

Steve · Oct 12, 2011, 18:34:03

IOS 5 is out although it may be a while before it propagates to all iTunes regions, my impression is that you need the latest version of iTunes i.e. 10.5

Niall · Oct 12, 2011, 18:50:15

Correct. My mate was telling me last night that it was out but I couldn't find it. When I installed 10.5 it then told me the update was available. I'm breaking my phone as we speak

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 18:51:04

Got the iTunes update earlier. Just waiting for iOS5 to come up now. I hope it's good because I'll be giving up my Jailbreak for it.

psp83 · Oct 12, 2011, 19:07:25

Downloading now, started off fast but now its very slow

Can everyone stop downloading the update please so I can get it quicker

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 19:09:31

Let me know if it buggers up your phone!

psp83 · Oct 12, 2011, 19:12:23

I will if it ever downloads..

now its starting to download from the start, it got to 600mb of 774mb and threw the above error

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 19:13:55

I need to know if you can actually use your own custom message tones and alerts, not just ones you can buy from iTones.

psp83 · Oct 12, 2011, 19:18:53

Quote from: Simon on Oct 12, 2011, 19:13:55
I need to know if you can actually use your own custom message tones and alerts, not just ones you can buy from iTones.

Don't think you get custom SMS sounds.

It can't be hard to give that option though, you can have custom ringtones

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 19:20:39

You can, Mitch. It's one of the new features.

Niall · Oct 12, 2011, 19:55:28

Yep, that killed my phone right nice. Restore, reinstall, restore, reinstall. It seems to be stuck in a loop and is now stuck restoring the apps. Ah I love these Apple updates.

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 20:00:15

Niall · Oct 12, 2011, 20:03:11

Lots of reports on google of problems for those that 'successfully' installed it too. Hmm I may be buying an S2 sooner than planned

{edit} Oh wait, that threat seems to have kicked it into life. It's now restoring 16gb of music. Woo.

Steve · Oct 12, 2011, 20:07:30

Thank goodness I've been to the pub , some nice Exmoor Gold I'll worry about Apple updates tomorrow

PS I think an early start might pay dividends

Niall · Oct 12, 2011, 20:12:54

I think Jobs' last laugh was to set a gremlin loose amongst everything Apple, and let the new bloke take all the flak for the demise of Apple

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 20:15:08

So, is your 3GS borked, Niall?

Niall · Oct 12, 2011, 20:22:47

Oddly, it's just finished restoring and now it's using IOS5, despite telling me there was an error and forcing the restore. I have no idea what's happened but it's definitely IOS5 on it now

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 20:46:01

I'm just downloading iTunes 10.5 now so that I can get iOS 5 installed. I'll report back on progress later!

edit: just flicked back to iTunes and it is offering the iOS 5 upgrade so it looks like you don't need 10.5 after all.

Steve · Oct 12, 2011, 20:48:25

I think it unlikely I'll have any success before tomorrow am

psp83 · Oct 12, 2011, 20:56:03

Best thing is to wait until tomorrow to update.. you will probly get this everytime if you try right now :

Servers are to busy to authorize the update

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 21:28:06

300mb down, 40 mins remaining

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 21:29:14

Oh, hell, I'm going for it...

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 21:37:00

Please don't! You'll slow mine down even more!!!

Now at 437mb...

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 21:38:33

I've started, so I'll finish...

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 21:39:32

You hope

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 21:46:30

35 minutes remaining...

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 21:58:38

19...

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 21:59:36

Mines now installing

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 22:09:45

6...

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 22:11:39

Quote from: Lance on Oct 12, 2011, 21:59:36
Mines now installing

Or maybe not. Come up with a similar error to Paul's, but saying the server couldn't be contacted. Trying it again (fortunately don't need to redownload!).

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 22:16:51

And sure enough, I've got the error again. Might try it again in the morning when the US are asleep.

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 22:18:52

Mine says Backing Up... at the moment.

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 22:33:17

I got the error the first time, but now it seems to be doing something...

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 22:34:24

Restoring iPhone software...

.Griff. · Oct 12, 2011, 23:01:46

I've no interest in IO5 but then I noticed the increase in packet loss on my TBBQM -

I wonder if it's a result of people rushing to download it?!?!?

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 23:07:00

I thought to myself earlier I wonder if the graphs will show the impact but couldn't be bothered to log in and check mine!

I'm in bed now so will try my update in the morning.

Simon · Oct 12, 2011, 23:19:29

Mine is updated - just restoring apps, music, etc, but I'm already missing the jailbreak.

Lance · Oct 12, 2011, 23:26:53

I'm sure a new jailbreak will appear soon enough!

zappaDPJ · Oct 13, 2011, 00:14:05

I managed to get the latest version of iTunes by checking for updates but I can't get iOS 5. Perhaps it's no longer available because of the overloaded servers?

[EDIT] OK after running some diagnostics it appears iTunes isn't able to sync with my iPhone even though it does it every time I charge the phone. Restarting the phone brought it up as a device in iTunes. I don't think I've ever seen that before

Anyway the update failed, I'll try again later.

Simon · Oct 13, 2011, 01:02:40

Mine is all up and running now.

zappaDPJ · Oct 13, 2011, 01:30:13

I had around ten failures after it extracted the file but then it did its thing.

Lance · Oct 13, 2011, 07:29:57

Mines now working, currently restoring music and videos...

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 07:43:02

Mine had updated overnight.

psp83 · Oct 13, 2011, 08:15:19

The only issue I had since updating is missing apps, done a app restore through iTunes and got them back but had to put them into folders again.

Other than that and the errors I got because the server was busy, it went fine.

But it seems apple did this update different than the rest, it did a full restore/reset and then put the backups on your phone.

But I guess they had to do this because of the big changes in how iOS5 works (with updates over wifi etc)

psp83 · Oct 13, 2011, 08:21:00

Oh and I like the split keyboard on the iPad

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Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 08:45:37

I lost my entire camera roll updating, not happy about that

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 08:46:13

iCloud is also so slow...Sensation XE looks more and more promising

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 09:25:09

Quote from: Gary on Oct 13, 2011, 08:45:37
I lost my entire camera roll updating, not happy about that

Where they not backed up Gary?

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 09:26:43

Quote from: Gary on Oct 13, 2011, 08:46:13
iCloud is also so slow...Sensation XE looks more and more promising

Certainly it's busy I managed to move one Mobile Me account over earlier today but I've failed with the second account as the server is too busy.

Simon · Oct 13, 2011, 09:30:46

My camera roll is there, but I've lost all other photo folders. Luckily, I still have them on my PC.

It also reset my data settings, so I couldn't get mobile data this morning.

I don't like the Newsstand thing, which it seems you can't remove, and the Reminders app is basic at best.

Safari is much faster, though.

Early days, but 5/10 at the moment.

Ray · Oct 13, 2011, 09:37:22

Now managed to get it installed on my Ipod, not a very good experience though with about 6 attempts to get the restore to work, thought I'd bricked it at one stage.

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 09:56:32

The iPhone was fine no issue at all. The iPad didn't entirely play fair but that was easily resolved from backup.

pctech · Oct 13, 2011, 10:02:42

Ah well, least when I buy a new iPhone it will be preinstalled.

pctech · Oct 13, 2011, 10:53:42

Looks like there's such a demand for iOS 5 the iCloud can't keep up

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/12/apple_ios_update_woes/

.Griff. · Oct 13, 2011, 11:16:15

I don't own an iPhone so I've no idea if this is true but I read something this morning that said if you had iCloud enabled every photo you took with the device was automatically uploaded and you had no ability to delete it at all.

If that's true I can see a lot of people having somewhat embarrassing photos online with no way of deleting them.

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 11:23:32

I agree on the iPhone if photo stream is enabled upload is automatic there are other options for photo stream on the Mac where manual control options are allowed but with automatic you have to be very careful

Simon · Oct 13, 2011, 11:31:56

I haven't enabled iCloud.

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 11:33:23

Quote from: Steve on Oct 13, 2011, 09:25:09

Where they not backed up Gary?

Yes they were Steve, but the backup got deleted, I have no idea what happened I had that error message everyone seemed to get, then it 'restored' iOS5

all my events were kept but my camera roll vanished

Managed a full backup over wifi last night...3hours over my slow adsl max line. iCloud can cause duplicates in calender as well

to many updates to quickly, oh and iPhoto got an update as well but if you are brave enough to use photo stream it seems to crash according to the forums. Saying that Lion 10.7.2 is much better.

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 11:34:29

Quote from: .Griff. on Oct 13, 2011, 11:16:15
I don't own an iPhone so I've no idea if this is true but I read something this morning that said if you had iCloud enabled every photo you took with the device was automatically uploaded and you had no ability to delete it at all.

If that's true I can see a lot of people having somewhat embarrassing photos online with no way of deleting them.

Photo steam is not enabled by default for that very reason.

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 11:35:59

Quote from: Simon on Oct 13, 2011, 11:31:56
I haven't enabled iCloud.

I have logging in to the iCloud web page and grabbing information, emails etc from any location is very handy, so is find your iphone and the ability to remote lock/wipe it if you need to.

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 11:37:21

Not tried back up to iCloud yet I think I'll wait for the dust to settle. The transition from Mobile Me to iCloud seems to have gone OK for two accounts , time will tell.

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 11:38:03

Quote from: Steve on Oct 13, 2011, 11:37:21
Not tried back up to iCloud yet I think I'll wait for the dust to settle. The transition from Mobile Me to iCloud seems to have gone OK for two accounts , time will tell.

I had to plug mine in last night after all the fuss Steve and it did it automatically

it only updates once a day when you are plugged in, the screen is locked and you are on wifi.

Simon · Oct 13, 2011, 11:38:22

Yes, my calendar was a bit of a state after the upgrade. It added times to all my repeating all day events, and I also had some duplicate entries. Luckily, I'd taken a backup of the Outlook calendar before the upgrade.

Here's a related question - when you get an alert during a sync that the iPhone is about to change calendar entries on the PC, there seems no way to see what it's changing, so you either have to go ahead, or cancel the sync. Next time, you just get the same alert again. Is there any way round this? Also, does the reminder app sync with Outlook tasks?

Steve · Oct 13, 2011, 11:39:20

Sorry Simon I don't use Outlook on the Mac

Gary · Oct 13, 2011, 11:41:32

Nor do I Simon, I just use Mail and iCal. If you have clashes on the Mac it warns you in iCal and you can choose what to sync.

Niall · Oct 13, 2011, 12:07:06

I quite like this update so far. Email seems better for a start, pulling in my hotmail account automatically, although I'm not sure how! There's a few simple things I like too, but my break just finished so I'm off!

Another dentist trip I the bag, so hopefully no more unwanted bills for the rest of the year!

psp83 · Oct 13, 2011, 18:38:06

What I did was do a manual backup before downloading iOS5. Then I updated to iOS5. It did its stuff. I lost apps etc.

But once everything was finished I pressed shift + restore and restored from the backup I took just before the update & everything was back to normal.