80Mbps FTTC

[Glenn]

Thanks for the exchange list, Simon.

[mervl]

  Just weird. My "village" exchange is on the list but not the towns. Hapless anyway, as I'm on FTTC but in the "wrong" part of the exchange area, and 17a (sic) gives me the fantastic theoretical attainable speed of 42Mbps according to the Fritz!

[Rik]

Mine is, but we're not yet live.

[Glenn]

Mine is missing

[Rik]

Bit crazy, isn't it.

[Glenn]

Possibly the exchanges that are just going live are those in the trial, it would make sense as there may have been additional 'upgrade work' to existing exchanges.

[Rik]

Good point.

[mervl]

Possibly the exchanges that are just going live are those in the trial, it would make sense as there may have been additional 'upgrade work' to existing exchanges.

Well mine went "live" back in July. The only thing I can think of it that it's a mix of different sized exchanges, backhaul issues and speeds/take up? Still don't explain why my "suburban" exchange in on the trial but not the "parent" town exchange (but we have the latest estates who might also have Virgin so is that the key)? I'd need vectoring but no sign of that yet!

[Anton]

Scrolling down the list I just knew my exchange wouldn't be on the list 

Just weird. My "village" exchange is on the list but not the towns. Hapless anyway, as I'm on FTTC but in the "wrong" part of the exchange area, and 17a (sic) gives me the fantastic theoretical attainable speed of 42Mbps according to the Fritz!

Mine is (Willaston) and I have to say it baffles me. There are two exchanges around here, Willaston and Haslington (actually serving Crewe).

http://maps.thinkbroadband.com/?utm_source=mainsite&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=maps&utm_content=speedtest#!lat=53.087027962222855&lng=-2.470206093261711&zoom=13&type=terrain&exchanges%5Bfttc%5D=false&estimated-speeds

Willaston has always had decent speeds, whist as you'll see from that map, moving the Haslngton Exchange 1 1/2 miles back in the 80s has given BT a legacy problem with over long line lengths which was made much worse by lots of development on the North of the town (see all that red - three large housing developments all sub 1mbps!, versus almost all green for Willaston even on ADSL).

For some reason BT rolled out Willaston first and then Haslington later and now the 80mbps trial is taking the same route.

I'm sure there's a plan to it all, but I'm damned if I know what it is!

[pukkahq]

can i put my name down for the trial or the next trial, or even the one after that lol

Thanks

Paul

[Glenn]

  Paul.

You will need to speak with IDNet support to get put on the list, the trial that starts in Jan has already closed, but there is meant to be a wider trial starting in March, I believe.

[Ray]

  Paul

[pukkahq]

thank you both for the warm welcome.

[Steve]

  Paul.

[Steve]

Looks like the trial may begin on the 6th Feb and suggestion from the end of Jan that line checker speeds will reflect the 80/20 technology if supported by the ISP. I wonder whether the potential 80/20 speeds will be available to the end user

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefingsarticles/nga03511.do

[.Griff.]

Unfortunately the list of participating Exchanges is quite small (see below). I've kept a list of all those who asked to join the trial and so for anyone whose Exchange is not listed here we'll try to get them onto the next phase of the trial which should by country-wide.


Acton
Arkwright
Arrowebrook
Ashford
Aycliffe
Balham
Banbury
Basford
Bath Kingsmead
Beaconsfield
Beckenham
Bedford
Beulah Hill
Bishopsgate
Boreham
Bridgend
Burnham
Burntwood
Bushey Heath
Chepstow
Chesham
Chesterfield
Colindale
Dronfield
Dulwich
East Grinstead
Edgware
Egham
Enfield
Evesham
Farnborough Hants
Feltham
Fernhill Heath
Gants Hill
Garforth
Gosforth Unit A
Grove Park
Guildford
Hackney
Hampstead
Hayes Common
Headington
Hengoed
Ilford North
Kingsbury
Kingston
Kneller Hall
Lee Green
Leighton Buzzard
Llantrisant
Lofthouse Gate
Loughborough
Lower Holloway
Maidstone
Mill Hill
Molesey
Mosborough
Newbury
North Wembley
Palmers Green
Preston
Primrose Hill
Purley
Rayleigh
Reading Central
Rugby
Rushden
Rushey Green
Sale
Shenley Church End
South Kensington
Southport
St Neots
St Peters
Stevenage
Stockton Heath
Stratford On Avon
Swadlincote
Teddington
Tile Hill
Tunbridge Wells
Uckfield
Widnes
Willaston
Winchester
Wolverton

http://s.aa.net.uk/1345

We have a number of customers on the FTTC 80Mb/s trial now. One has 79.7Mb/s and another has 57Mb/s. This is pretty impressive. The uplink is around 20Mb/s as well...


The trial is not going badly - the lines are syncing up at nice high rates, and the rates are correctly coming through to us.


There are a few minor teething troubles getting the profiles right in the middle somewhere - but this is a technical trial, so not at all surprising.


This part of the trial is expected to last until the end of the month, where the second phase of the trial starts. The second part is expected to be open to the whole country (where FTTC is currently available)

Any news on the second part of the trial Simon?

[Steve]

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefingsarticles/nga03511.do


I think I miss understood the terminology in relation to the trials , since we are now in the technical phase of the trial and this expansion mentioned beginning next month I think perhaps is the second phase. The term triallists I believe refers to Idnet as a CP


"Finally, from Monday, 6th February 2012, we intend to allow registered triallists of the GEA-FTTC 80/20 product variant to expand their use of the 80/20 product, moving out of the technical trial phase and into pilot."

[Simon_idnet]

Unfortunately an "Aministrative error" by Openreach means that our list of trailists has been omitted from Phase 1. I know it's disappointing to those who were looking forward to the new speed profiles but as Phase 2 has been brought forward to 6th Feb it will only be as few weeks before they can get the 80/20 services.

[Steve]

Do we have to apply for phase 2 Simon particularly those who were not on the original trial lists.

[.Griff.]

Thanks for the update Simon 

[.Griff.]

The second phase of the 80/20 is due to start today for all those lucky enough to be on the shortlist. (Unless BT/OR cocked up again)

[Rik]

Good luck to all who sail in her. 

[Niall]

Typically my dad who is happy with Talk Talk (god knows why, I tell him every single time I see him to ditch it) has this available on his exchange. I'm off work for 2 weeks, in 3 weeks. Maybe I can sneak an order in before I go down there and take my external drive, and download all my games and back them up in Steam

[.Griff.]

Talk Talk use GEA rather than BTw. I'm not sure what that means with regards to 80/20 for their customers.

As for the 80/10 trial it's been very quiet today but I wouldn't be surprised if it's been pushed back or Openreach forgot Idnet had requested to take part.

[pctech]

He's probably happy with TT because its cheap as chips.