Update to 6.3.9.63-Plus

Polchraine · Nov 21, 2011, 15:41:53

Quote from: J1mbo on Nov 21, 2011, 15:05:32
Think some wires are crossed here... there is no known fix to the slowness of response, although it has been suggested that disabling content filtering might help (I've not tried it; apparently content filtering is always running even if it appears not to be).

Content screeening does not appear to be visible on any page of 6.3.9.63-plus - and without visibility, how can it be accessed?

Or should I say Pages B_1_0, B_1_1 and B_1_2 are there but are blank.

Hudders · Nov 21, 2011, 19:51:23

Well that is odd then, as my 6.3.9.63-plus does have http://<host>/xslt?PAGE=B_1_2 where I can choose content screening settings

J1mbo · Nov 22, 2011, 00:01:40

It's all there on mine too. Apparently it's disabled (properly) by performing a factory-reset then adding a dummy static route to the BT provisioning server, or something like that anyway.

Personnally I'm consideing changing it for something like a Draytek 2820. I found that although the routes to local subnets is fixed, it's only partitally fixed as those subnets can't get any access out.

It is a bit of a shame - good, stable and capable hardware nobbled by cr*ppy firmware.

Polchraine · Nov 22, 2011, 09:52:19

Definitely NOT there on mine just blank pages and considering it was on a BT line with attempts to stop it talking to the BT servers - rather odd.

Currently using a 2701 with 6.3.9.41-plus - it is present there but missing on the 2700 with 6.1.1.48.1-enh

I have seen reports of 6.3.9.41-plus with and without Access Control and it seems almost random as to whether 6.3.9.63-Plus shows the controls.

Hudders · Nov 29, 2011, 23:52:51

Well....I just so happened to "come across" (borrow) an original 2700, with 5.29.117.6 - man.....is my Internet speedy and snappy now ! such a subtle contrast to 6.3.9.63

So, in calling BT, the ever-so-helpful BT tech said "yeah....we have been hearing alot about this, along with the losing of the 2nd wireless/fusion". He confirmed that 6.3.9.63 is not being rolled anymore due to the issues. He was also not sure replacing the 2700 with a replacement 2700/2701 would fix the issue, as it may have the new firmware and wll def loose the 2nd wireless channel. I, personally, am not too concerned over losing that wireless feature, I just want the Internet to get back to proper speed, so will be trying a new 2701

Finally, it seems BT are looking to completely replace the 2700 in the coming months - do not know what with, or any other details.....but that was the story.

J1mbo · Dec 03, 2011, 20:22:33

I finally got fed up with random pages not loading and linux updates taking forever and swapped out the 2700 for an old NetGear device for now. As said chalk-and-cheese, everything wizzes along for me now

But I had cause to call BT to get the DSL credentials, and the person I spoke to was very up-front that the firmware release has rendered the 2700 useless and... *** I would be getting an entirely new hub soon from an alternate provider ***

Obviously being BT, 'soon' could be 2 years, but even so that would be a great result if it turns out to be the reality of it.

Tacitus · Dec 03, 2011, 21:13:19

Quote from: J1mbo on Dec 03, 2011, 20:22:33
........that would be a great result if it turns out to be the reality of it.

Given how good the 2700 is on poor lines it is to be hoped that any replacement will be as good or better

Knowing BT, that is far from certain.......

Polchraine · Dec 03, 2011, 21:30:49

Quote from: Tacitus on Dec 03, 2011, 21:13:19
Given how good the 2700 is on poor lines it is to be hoped that any replacement will be as good or better Knowing BT, that is far from certain.......

The new hub is on field trials at present - it is no where near as good and does not have a VOIP breakout capability.

Tacitus · Dec 04, 2011, 17:02:39

Quote from: Polchraine on Dec 03, 2011, 21:30:49
The new hub is on field trials at present - it is no where near as good and does not have a VOIP breakout capability.

Sigh.... Why doesn't that surprise me. Even as we speak I bet people are hoarding 2700s ready to sell at a premium on eBay

Rik · Dec 04, 2011, 17:07:45

I certainly am.

FritzBox · Dec 04, 2011, 19:08:31

Quote from: Tacitus on Dec 04, 2011, 17:02:39
Sigh.... Why doesn't that surprise me. Even as we speak I bet people are hoarding 2700s ready to sell at a premium on eBay

Funny you should mention that, I have four brand spanking V1's that I shall flash with the SBC firmware which as far as I'm concerned is the best on a long line. Was thinking today that I might test the water at £60, so rare now, like hens teeth

My ISP swears by em

Tacitus · Dec 07, 2011, 11:33:05

Quote from: FritzBox on Dec 04, 2011, 19:08:31
Funny you should mention that, I have four brand spanking V1's that I shall flash with the SBC firmware which as far as I'm concerned is the best on a long line. Was thinking today that I might test the water at £60, so rare now, like hens teeth
My ISP swears by em

Having had good experiences with the 2700 I bought a couple more BNIB to keep as spares. At £5-10 each you can't go wrong, but unfortunately they all come with the V6 firmware which rules me out for trying the SBC variety.

If I can pick up another one for around £5 or so I might go for it. I have seen some on eBay advertised as Version 3 so I'm not sure what that implies unless they mean version C.

Polchraine · Dec 07, 2011, 11:54:46

Quote from: Tacitus on Dec 07, 2011, 11:33:05
Having had good experiences with the 2700 I bought a couple more BNIB to keep as spares. At £5-10 each you can't go wrong, but unfortunately they all come with the V6 firmware which rules me out for trying the SBC variety.

If I can pick up another one for around £5 or so I might go for it. I have seen some on eBay advertised as Version 3 so I'm not sure what that implies unless they mean version C.

The box for a 2701 states Version 3 ...

Tacitus · Dec 07, 2011, 16:07:55

Quote from: Polchraine on Dec 07, 2011, 11:54:46
The box for a 2701 states Version 3 ...

OK thanks

lozcart · Dec 20, 2011, 13:19:27

BT are at it again I've had my other 2700 updated to 6.3.9.63-plus.tm from 6.1.1.48.1-enh.tm last night.

I'm considering replacing my 2700s now, what is a good replacement, i'm thinking a Billion 7800N?

Polchraine · Dec 20, 2011, 14:20:55

Quote from: lozcart on Dec 20, 2011, 13:19:27
BT are at it again I've had my other 2700 updated to 6.3.9.63-plus.tm from 6.1.1.48.1-enh.tm last night.

I'm considering replacing my 2700s now, what is a good replacement, i'm thinking a Billion 7800N?

They are doing 30,000 per night from yesterday ... I need an update but they cannot say when!

lozcart · Dec 20, 2011, 15:28:01

Quote from: Polchraine on Dec 20, 2011, 14:20:55
They are doing 30,000 per night from yesterday ... I need an update but they cannot say when!

Do you know if the firmware update is exactly the same as the original 'buggy' version or has it changed and they've kept the same version number.

Polchraine · Dec 20, 2011, 17:19:40

Quote from: lozcart on Dec 20, 2011, 15:28:01
Do you know if the firmware update is exactly the same as the original 'buggy' version or has it changed and they've kept the same version number.

I wish I knew ... but they say that there are quite a few problems arising at present and firmware ill fix it ... so maybe it is a new version retaining the older number but that should not happen in software releases.

lozcart · Dec 20, 2011, 17:33:00

I haven't noticed the loss of "snappiness" like I did when my other router was updated but there are still problems with content screening locking up the router when a site it doesn't like is attempted to be viewed, this is with screening turned off. I therefore think this is a different version.

I wonder if I connected up my router with the buggy version installed it would up date to this better version.

kinmel · Dec 20, 2011, 18:12:02

This latest version is intended to correct the last lot of bugs, no doubt new features will appear in this one.

I am hiding behind a V5 until it all settles down

Polchraine · Dec 20, 2011, 18:31:50

Quote from: kinmel on Dec 20, 2011, 18:12:02
This latest version is intended to correct the last lot of bugs, no doubt new features will appear in this one.

I am hiding behind a V5 until it all settles down

No version 5 on 2701s !

My problem is that 10 days ago my FTTC started to play up - speeds were all over the place. Router was .41 and tried another .41 with same issues but put a .63 in place and it solved it! Just waiting to see what happens with te update. If it solves it or not - if it does, what has happened elsewhere to cause the problems.

lozcart · Dec 22, 2011, 09:40:15

After using this latest updated router for the last few days I can confirm using the internet has lost a degree of "snappiness" but nothing like the loss when my other router was updated in November. I haven't mentioned this last update to my family and I've had no complaints from them regarding loss of speed.

To confirm:
Early November update to 6.3.9.63=Noticeable loss of snappiness and incorrect loading of websites
Late December update to 6.3.9.63=Minor loss of snappiness and occasional incorrect loading of websites

Tacitus · Dec 22, 2011, 09:53:51

Wasn't there some way of blocking these updates using static routes?

arobertson676 · Dec 23, 2011, 19:05:05

Quote from: Tacitus on Dec 22, 2011, 09:53:51
Wasn't there some way of blocking these updates using static routes?

There was/is and the full method can be found at: http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/163.htm

Tacitus · Dec 24, 2011, 06:47:53

Quote from: arobertson676 on Dec 23, 2011, 19:05:05
There was/is and the full method can be found at: http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/163.htm

Thanks for this - I thought there was a method somewhere, but failed to locate it on the tripod site