Trouble accessing any site other than this forum.

Started by Wooloff, Feb 04, 2012, 07:23:10

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Wooloff

Just turned my computer and I'm having issues accessing any websites other than this forum.

The router is saying it's connected but I'm just getting timed out messages on every page.

Anyone else having similar issues or know what's up? It was fine last night.

Desaan

Same here, even my backup DNS (Google/OPEN) are doing the limbo as well.  Can only access this site and the IDNET one  :dunno:

Warren

Yes, exactly the same. I read your post on my Ipad as I thought internet was down completely, but have checked back on my PC and this forum is accessible! Everything else is down, although I could retrieve email from idnet.com address.

Location: Slough

Warren

A tracert to another web address shows:

C:\Users\Warren>tracert www.microsoft.com

Tracing route to lb1.www.ms.akadns.net [65.55.12.249]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  redbus-gw3-lo1.idnet.net [212.69.63.42]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
16     *     ^C
C:\Users\Warren>

gwidnet

best ever speedtest 01 11 2011:

Glenn

Everything seems to be working fine from my FTTC conection. I'm on the Blackwater exchange, Hampshire, where are you all located?
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Wooloff

I'm on the Didcot Exchange in Oxfordshire.

At least I know it's not just me. Just a waiting game again now I guess.

Warren

I am in Slough as stated.

I can even pinpoint the time a little. I woke up around 5-30am and my internet radio was working as I listened for 10 mins or so, but went back to sleep and at 0630 the connection had falllen over when I woke again.

Baz


Glenn

Have any of you reported the problem to Support?
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Warren

I've just got off the phone to 1st line support, so have reported it.

Wooloff

Quote from: Warren on Feb 04, 2012, 07:56:28
I've just got off the phone to 1st line support, so have reported it.

:thumb:

I was just trying to find the support number and times on the site. I did not think anyone would be manning the phones at this time.

talos


Wooloff

Quote from: talos on Feb 04, 2012, 08:01:46
Must be local, no problem here in W Wales :)

Good to hear but Oxford and the North East are not really local. :)

Steve

Quick question (as my connections fine) are you all LLU as we've a member of staff with an LLU connection and that's down as well.
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Glenn

Good call, Steve, I was just looking there too.
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Wooloff

Quote from: Steve on Feb 04, 2012, 08:03:20
Quick question (as my connections fine) are you all LLU as we've a member of staff with an LLU connection and that's down as well.

What's LLU and how would I tell if I were on it?

Sorry, I'm not the best with these sort of things.

Steve

Early for me, but unless IDNet informed you , you wouldn't know. If the connection was working normally you wouldn't be able to complete a BT speedtest.

I'm guessing but if your exchange is Be* enabled it's a likely possibility I'm seem to recall Baz was switched to LLU but maybe wrong. If you list your exchange I'll look.


Edit: Didcot- has Be* availability.
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Wooloff

Quote from: Steve on Feb 04, 2012, 08:09:32
Early for me, but unless IDNet informed you , you wouldn't know. If the connection was working normally you wouldn't be able to complete a BT speedtest.

I'm guessing but if your exchange is Be* enabled it's a likely possibility I'm seem to recall Baz was switched to LLU but maybe wrong. If you list your exchange I'll look.

I'm on the Didcot exchange in Oxfordshire.

I was able to do a BT speedtest last time I tired. That was a very long time ago now though.

talos

Quote from: Wooloff on Feb 04, 2012, 08:03:15
Good to hear but Oxford and the North East are not really local. :)

What I mean is its more likely to be a BT problem than an Idnet one :)

Warren

Something is happening.... my Skype just connected and I can now see BBC Sport, albeit it is loading slowly, I think the hamster has woken up from its nap!

Baz

correct yes im on LLU Steve  good shout  :thumb:   could be that then.

Baz

im starting to get some sites trying to load eg google  but takes for ever and even this forum hangs right at the end

Wooloff

Quote from: talos on Feb 04, 2012, 08:14:04
What I mean is its more likely to be a BT problem than an Idnet one :)

Sorry was not trying to be an arse. I get what you mean now :D

Baz


Baz

just been to my account home page and there is a message displayed


IDNet Notification

2012-02-04 07:53:Announcement - LLU broadband customers are currently experiencing a routing problem.

and also the same message on IDNet network status page

Steve

True  ;D It's says under the Network heading

We have received reports for poor connectivity to numerous web sites from our network. UPDATE: The engineers identified the problem to be with unbalanced traffic to one of our peering providers
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Baz

status page show sub optimal service


Sub-Optimal Service indicates service performing slower than acceptable or an outage that only affects a limited number of customers

Baz

Quote from: Wooloff on Feb 04, 2012, 08:05:48
What's LLU and how would I tell if I were on it?

Sorry, I'm not the best with these sort of things.


the only way I knew I had been switched was a great improvement in speeds.but you can also check if you log in to your account and look at your package details...I think.

if you can get on to your account that is  ;)

minimoog

Quote from: Baz on Feb 04, 2012, 08:27:47

the only way I knew I had been switched was a great improvement in speeds.but you can also check if you log in to your account and look at your package details...I think.

if you can get on to your account that is  ;)

<checks account>

Ah that explains why my speed mysteriously doubled recently then.

But yes, sites timing out or loading very slowly here in Northumberland on LLU.

netn00b


netn00b

well apparently i am on LLU whatever that is..../sigh

stuff to sort out online at the weekend and no access  :slap:

Glenn

Anyone getting access now, support have been working on the routers and hopefully have fixed the problem?
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Wooloff

Quote from: Glenn on Feb 04, 2012, 09:53:24
Anyone getting access now, support have been working on the routers and hopefully have fixed the problem?

Seem to be able to access all sites now. Just very, very slowly and a lot of partially loaded sites.

Getting there though :)

Baz


minimoog

One or two pages are crawling through but mosty everything's still timing out.

Baz

i dont get to the timing out stage i just give up.nearly 2mins for amazon to load and then didnt get all the page

Tylluan

Still the same for me; nothing loading beyond the background colours.

Wooloff

What little connection there was seems to have gone again :(

Time for some housework I think. Will give the Mrs a shock :)

minimoog


David

Many hammer all over the wall and believe that with each blow they hit the nail on the head.

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wkb21

Mail exchanges still not working in Scotland:

"451 4.3.5 Server configuration problem"

But web ok.

Steve

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Glenn

Quote from: wkb21 on Feb 04, 2012, 10:54:14
Mail exchanges still not working in Scotland:

"451 4.3.5 Server configuration problem"

But web ok.

I'm not see any mail issues. Is anyone that had a problem this morning getting the same problem?
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Steve

A request.Anyone of you who's had an LLU issue happen to have a Thinkbroadband Quality Monitor running? I'd be interested in say Wednesday or Thursday from this last week.
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Rik

Quote from: Glenn on Feb 04, 2012, 10:59:56
I'm not see any mail issues. Is anyone that had a problem this morning getting the same problem?

No, all fine here and I was hit with the Telefonica and IDNet problems.
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esh

This is going up and down here. Will keep monitoring. First major LLU fault for me.
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Rik

Are you running a ThinkBroadband BQM, esh? If not, it might be helpful as mine seems to have given about a week's warning of this problem.
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wkb21

Quote from: wkb21 on Feb 04, 2012, 10:54:14
Mail exchanges still not working in Scotland:

"451 4.3.5 Server configuration problem"

But web ok.

My mail exchanges are now back to normal.

esh

Sadly I'm not... I really ought to get around to signing up for one. It's getting better now but we still have up/down periods at the moment. Did the monitor show this as packet loss? Anyone know the specifics of the problem? Is it peering or a router?
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Rik

Some packet loss, but mainly a massive amount of latency. As far as we know, it was unbalanced loading to one of Telefonica's peering providers. This is live, so will change in time, but shows the latency issue, the outage, a second outage due to an IDNet router and then the line returning to normal.

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David

No mail issues here at all but couldnta access the net so I am on LLU but alls fine now
Many hammer all over the wall and believe that with each blow they hit the nail on the head.

Simon

No, mail is fine here too, and I also missed the router issue by staying in bed.  ;D
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Ray

Mail fine here too, I didn't seem to have been affected by the Idnet router outage either. :)
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Rik

So you were both in bed, eh? ;D

I think we should all stay there tomorrow...
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David

Quote from: Rik on Feb 04, 2012, 11:52:33
So you were both in bed, eh? ;D

I think we should all stay there tomorrow...
I know we are close but all of us in one bed is a challenge and scary  ;D ;D
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David

Many hammer all over the wall and believe that with each blow they hit the nail on the head.

.Griff.

Taken from Be -

03/02/2012 16:00   N/A   We have received reports for poor connectivity to numerous web sites from our network. We're investigating at the moment and will try to resolve the problem as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience. No ETR

Update 03/02/2012 17:00   The engineers identified the problem to be with unbalanced traffic to one of our peering providers.

Update 03/02/2012 21:28   The problem has been localized and isolated and its impact on the service quality should now be minimal. The repairs will continue during the night so the issue can be fully resolved.

esh

Looking good here now. Many thanks to Rik and Griff for the info.

I've also finally gotten around to adding a quality monitor for this line, since I lost my previous (internal) monitor when I swapped out the pfSense router over the christmas period.
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Rik

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Lona

I lost connection last night and the night before.  I was beginning to think it was my router but things are back to normal this morning.


If one took the Scots out of the world, it would fall apart
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Baz

For Steve can go back a bit further for you.Strange I didnt notice any difference on those days just today.

from 27 Jan and 2nd Feb


Glenn

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pctech

Just to put my tuppence in.

A peering issue with the BE network should have no effect whatsoever on IDNet because traffic is handed off to IDNet from the Telefonica LLU network via a tunneled session unless of course they have peering connections connected to a router that terminates LLU links and then directs traffic onward to wholesale customers where applicable and over its own peering where the customer is with BE although I would have expected to see a slow down in loading if the equipment's OS was being overwhelmed.


Steve

Thanks Baz , that's exactly the same as Rik's with evidence of an issue present for some time.
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Lona

Quote from: Lona on Feb 04, 2012, 13:12:07
I lost connection last night and the night before.  I was beginning to think it was my router but things are back to normal this morning.

Same thing last night.  It's weird as it appears that I have a connection but cannot load any websites. It's not the pc as all pcs are acting the same.  I will have to phone Idnet tomorrow.


If one took the Scots out of the world, it would fall apart
Dr. Louis B Wright, Washington DC, National Geographic (1964), from Donald MacDonald, Edinburgh :thumb:

Rik

Phone today, Lona, that's effectively a no connection situation - though if you can get here, it sounds like an external problem.
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Lona

I thought there was no support at the week-end, Rik.

My connection is fine today. I can't understand why it happens late afternoon and continues into the early hours. Three nights in a row sounds strange to me.


If one took the Scots out of the world, it would fall apart
Dr. Louis B Wright, Washington DC, National Geographic (1964), from Donald MacDonald, Edinburgh :thumb:

Rik

There's support for no connection situations. Given we're not getting lots of complaints, it suggests a local issue at your exchange or node to me.
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Lona

I phoned the first night and got one of those girls who said she knew of no outage and gave me the usual list of things to do, so I thought it better to wait till Monday when the day staff would be on.


If one took the Scots out of the world, it would fall apart
Dr. Louis B Wright, Washington DC, National Geographic (1964), from Donald MacDonald, Edinburgh :thumb:

Den

Lost my internet for about an hour this morning, I think it was a local issue (caused by the none appearance of snow) but I could be wrong. Rebooted router and all is well now.   ;D
Mr Music Man.

Simon

It was obviously sulking because of the lack of snow, Den.  ;)
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Den

I catch your drift Simon  >:D  Perhaps it was flaked out waiting for the snowdrop.
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David

Did it freeze the page ? I thought I melt a rat  ;D
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David

A spell which failed as Jill didnt show up at my door dressed in ......................... :evil:
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Mopy

Hi,

Sorry to bump this, but I'm having similar problems here again. Everything is very slow, timing out, half-loaded pages etc.

Is it just me? It started this morning.

Edit - forgot to add, this is Bedford :) I have no idea what LLU is, but I'm on the home 8 meg 40/120 bandwidth option if that helps.

tinawie

Yes, I have the same, it seems sites in the UK , like this and BBC pages work, but not ones hosted abroad, World of Warcraft I cant reach

Stevescat

On Home Pro LLU in Warwickshire and experiencing the same problems. Some sites not loading, others very sluggish.
Steve

mk1

Yeap, im starting to get time out issues, i can't even pay my idnet bill as the site timing out!? LLU connection.

Tylluan

#89
I'm afraid this has returned for me too. This site loads, The Guardian and BBC loads but nothing else does.

Baz

yep same here too   North East and on LLU

same as before...oh dear :( :(

IDNet status page shows all ok,has any one called them

Glenn

I found this from the Status page link, Griff posted

QuotePlease note that you might experience packet loss and slow browsing issue. It has been traced to the network of one of our peering providers. A case with them has been raised. We will update you on the progress. Apologies for the inconvenience caused.
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Baz

which link Glenn?  is that still from the last time .  i cant see that or even get to the status page now

Glenn

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Ray

Have Idnet got a problem with their DNS servers? I've just had to swap to OpenDNS because I couldn't connect to hardly any websites or download my email from Idnet or my own domain.
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Baz

seems good now  :thumb:


status on IDNet homepage has changed back to Good

Steve

Quote from: Ray on Feb 17, 2012, 08:48:11
Have Idnet got a problem with their DNS servers? I've just had to swap to OpenDNS because I couldn't connect to hardly any websites or download my email from Idnet or my own domain.

Not had chance to check today but I did note that all the staff's BT lines had a loss of routing early this morning just before 6.
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Ray

I did wonder if that was the problem, Steve, as soon as I switched to Opendns everything started working again. :-\
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Tylluan

The issue has just returned for me? Can load this and a couple of news websites, and nothing else.