New Bandwidth Allowances

sparkler · Mar 13, 2012, 14:27:43

Bandwidth Allowance: 180GB Total (Peak: 40GB / Off Peak: 140GB )

Your exchange is due to be upgraded to ADSL2+ on 31-05-2012

Your exchange is not yet scheduled to be upgraded to Fibre Broadband

Lance · Mar 13, 2012, 15:47:39

@armadillo if your allowances have increased then you will be on the ADSL2+ connection modulated as Max.

armadillo · Mar 13, 2012, 17:09:29

Yes Lance, that is what I am on. I chose not to take the adsl2+ service but to stay modulated as adsl max. That appears to be what idnet do by default. Unless the customer asks for adsl2+, they will get connected to 21CN but keep their adsl max modulation.

alan · Mar 13, 2012, 19:21:55

Ah well stuck on ADSL max.. Nothing planned on my exchange. Market 1.

lemoncello · Mar 13, 2012, 22:53:42

This has come just in the nick of time after going over the allowance for the first time last month!

Simon · Mar 13, 2012, 23:53:55

You took your time getting here!

zappaDPJ · Mar 14, 2012, 00:25:39

Welcome to the forums

Stevescat · Mar 15, 2012, 08:58:43

This is wonderful news. How did I get by with just 5Gb a MONTH!!!

Ray · Mar 15, 2012, 09:00:46

foreversummer · Mar 17, 2012, 08:47:08

It's a shame though that IDNet are not doing something to keep up with the competition for those of us stuck on ASDL Max. Anyone else feel a bit hard done by?

Steve · Mar 17, 2012, 09:38:07

Certainly a 20CN product is more expensive from BT wholesale than a 21CN product.

foreversummer · Mar 17, 2012, 09:46:50

What would really help me would be a monthly roll-over of unused bandwidth usage. Some months I don't use my 40 gig allowance but some months I go a fair bit over. Over the course of a year I probably average 40 gig per month, but I certainly pay a lot more for it!

cyprio42 · Mar 18, 2012, 18:52:42

It's a shame though that IDNet are not doing something to keep up with the competition for those of us stuck on ASDL Max. Anyone else feel a bit hard done by?

Yep I am mate. I think Idnet are good but pricey compared to others.

Ardua · Mar 20, 2012, 13:35:47

One shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth but I see that Zen have just doubled their ADSL, ADSL2+ and fibre packages. 100GB FTTC download for £36 per month does indeed make IDNet look expensive but, more importantly, for most customers who are never likely to need unlimited broadband, Zen is offering packages which compete directly with BT. With OR working on local FTTC cabinets as I write, it would be nice to know if IDNet intend to respond by revising its FTTC packages?

Edit:

I must have upset OR as the BT Wholesale Checker has today changed from 31 March to 30 June for my cabinet.

armadillo · Mar 20, 2012, 14:05:44

Quote from: Ardua on Mar 20, 2012, 13:35:47
but I see that Zen have just doubled their ADSL, ADSL2+ and fibre packages.

I don't understand this comment with regard to ADSL and ADSL2+. I had a look on the Zen website and, unless I have missed something, Zen are hugely more expensive than Idnet for a lot less content. ZenPro is £35.72 per month with a 100GB allowance and ZenActive is £25.52 with a 50GB allowance.

Idnet give me ADSL max modulation a 21CN connection (I chose to decline ADSL2+ modulation). I get 200GB per month on ADSL Home Max for £25.52. That is the same price as ZenActive with four times the download allowance.
Zen provide 11 POP3 mailboxes of which 10 are customizable. Idnet give me unlimited POP3 mailboxes, all customizable online.

To me, Idnet blows Zen out of the water.

Perhaps there is an ISP that matches Idnet for content, reliability and cost but I have not seen one

pctech · Mar 20, 2012, 14:16:41

Active comes with a 100GB allowance from 1 April and Lite increases to 20GB and of course Pro will then double to 200GB.

mervl · Mar 20, 2012, 14:32:36

Isn't it obvious that if your interest is boasting of the biggest FTTx download allowance then BT's Infinity has always been your best option? That's not new.

Ardua · Mar 20, 2012, 15:24:25

I wasn't trying to be obtuse. What I was trying to say is that many customers will never need or use an unlimited package whether it be ADSL or FTTC. However, as stated on Zen's website, customers are using more bandwidth as a result of smart gadgets and a wish to use on-line/on demand services such as IPlayer. Personally, I would happily pay a small premium above that charged by BT for a 100GB FTTC/ADSL package (with usage during normal times of the day) rather than £35.74 for a 50/150GB package (IDNet). So it follows, in my view, Zen have cleverly narrowed the gap between its products and those offered by BT. For others who download massive amounts overnight, then I accept that the comparison may well swing in IDNet's favour. Horses for courses.

psp83 · Mar 20, 2012, 15:43:58

Quote from: Ardua on Mar 20, 2012, 13:35:47
I must have upset OR as the BT Wholesale Checker has today changed from 31 March to 30 June for my cabinet.

Sometimes when the dates changes it goes live not long after the original date, 3 cabs around this area was set for Sept 2011 and the dates got pushed backed to March 2012, but one was live just after sept and the other 2 by dec.

Same happened where my mate lives.

But it could also take a longer time frame, all depends if BT are having issues with the local council.

Ardua · Mar 20, 2012, 16:07:54

Quote from: psp83 on Mar 20, 2012, 15:43:58
Sometimes when the dates changes it goes live not long after the original date, 3 cabs around this area was set for Sept 2011 and the dates got pushed backed to March 2012, but one was live just after sept and the other 2 by dec.

Same happened where my mate lives.

But it could also take a longer time frame, all depends if BT are having issues with the local council.

FTTC cabinet in, fibre installed, power connected and links between the 2 cabinets installed. CASS is still around running the fibre into ducts around the town so I am hoping that the final FTTC connection will be sooner rather than later.

Glenn · Mar 20, 2012, 16:21:03

Quote from: Ardua on Mar 20, 2012, 13:35:47
100GB FTTC download for £36 per month does indeed make IDNet look expensive

The Zen Fibre Pro is £38 + VAT so £45.60 with a 40/2mb 100Gb (rising to 200Gb) package.
Compare the Zen 10mb upload packages, so like for like, the Fibre Office 40/10Mb 200Gb is £66.00 http://www.zen.co.uk/home-office/broadband/fibre-broadband.aspx

The IDNet's Home Fibre Pro is £47.99 with a 40/10mb 100/300Gb package https://www.idnet.net/solutions/home/broadband/default-fibre.jsp

armadillo · Mar 20, 2012, 17:45:09

Reading these replies, they all make sense and actually, Zen's increase to 100GB per month on Active, regardless of peak/off peak for the same cost as Idnet's 50/150GB package would be quite an attractive deal. I rarely (in fact never) reach 100GB per month but might sometimes want around 50GB in peak time. However, 10 POP3 mail boxes would be a deal breaker. I use around 30 boxes at the moment. It is of course possible to take a separate email service from an email provider but this is at more cost and there is no guarantee that such a provider would maintain quality of service.

This all reminds me of what OfGen have being saying about energy tariffs. They need to be simplified. There are now just so many options and pricing structures for broadband.

Some ISPs distinguish between peak and off peak. Some don't. Some put weekend into off peak. Idnet seems unique in putting weekend daytime into peak.

I wonder if the split between peak/offpeak is really necessary anyway and also whether it is really necessary to adopt different pricing on 20CN and 21CN. I know BT wholesale charge more for 20CN than 21CN bandwidth but that does not mean Idnet have to reflect that difference in customer charges. I am sure they could devise a simpler pricing structure.

Gary · Mar 20, 2012, 18:15:13

The increases in allowances are great, but I still wish this off peak peak structure would change, as has been said with more devices using the net, Blu-ray players and TV's with skype capability and youtube iPlayer etc and Sky now letting its anytime+ VOD open up to all ISP's and with Netflix and Lovefilm making more in roads into peoples houses for streaming content as well, the current set up still leaves a lot to be desired. $:-\$

cyprio42 · Mar 20, 2012, 18:25:44

Thing is I dont understand much of the above.

However we purchased a new Blu-ray player and this came with a free online movie to watch. This we did and thought it was ok, then next day I get an email from Idnet saying I'm going to go over my allowance and will get charged extra. So I look around and there a loads better options than what I am paying for. I need more allowance for the hours my family are about, not when everyone is in bed.

psp83 · Mar 20, 2012, 18:39:09

Quote from: cyprio42 on Mar 20, 2012, 18:25:44
Thing is I dont understand much of the above. However we purchased a new Blu-ray player and this came with a free online movie to watch. This we did and thought it was ok, then next day I get an email from Idnet saying I'm going to go over my allowance and will get charged extra. So I look around and there a loads better options than what I am paying for. I need more allowance for the hours my family are about, not when everyone is in bed.

Exactly, having 150/300 GB between midnight and 9am is good if your downloading files or renting films from iTunes to watch later. But 50/100 GB peak time bandwidth will be used in no time when you want to stream stuff at a normal time.

I don't want to wait to gone midnight to watch a movie from blinkbox/netflix when I have to be up early, also packet loss is higher after midnight and even on a 80/20 connection (speeds of around 55mb) I still get buffering and stuttering when the packet loss is higher so in the end I give up watching the movie / stream.

Once my 12 months is up I will be looking around if nothing gets changed, small bandwidth limits on a high bandwidth connection is my only issue with IDnet at the moment, except for that, the service and staff are great.