Windows 8

[Gary]

Seems like people need training wheels for the learning curves, and others need to work out why they want to ruin a perfectly good OS by putting Norton on it, when it comes with a perfectly good built in AV anyway... 

[Steve]

I think that's the problem with AV products - were scared stiff of getting one (although the chances are pretty low) plus we don't trust MS and it depends which review we read whether we trust them more or less. I think the Microsoft AV product is probably good enough, although Norton, McAfee and their sponsored reviewers will disagree.

[Lona]

Seems like people need training wheels for the learning curves, and others need to work out why they want to ruin a perfectly good OS by putting Norton on it, when it comes with a perfectly good built in AV anyway... 

My PC came with Norton pre-installed with 60 days free and an option to buy for £14.99.  I decided to take the 60 days to see if it was any good and if so I was going to purchase the licence.  When it started giving problems I contacted Microsoft who said they were aware of the problems and were working on a solution.  My beef is, why did Microsoft allow Norton to be installed with Windows 8 if they already knew it didn't work. I'm not entirely stupid, Gary, when it comes to AV.  I've had Norton in the past and years ago it was a very good application.

NB Think first before teaching your grannie to suck eggs.

[Glenn]

Maybe it wasn't Microsoft, but more likely the PC manufacturer that is being paid by Norton and the other Software houses to include their products.

[Simon]

And also, they may not have realised there were problems when the application was first installed.

[Lona]

All I can say is that if I were running a business I would make sure my products were compatible before installing them on goods going out for retail.

Either Norton should have consulted Samsung who in turn should have consulted Microsoft but that's what's wrong with todays big companies, there's never time to do it right but always time to do it over.

[Den]

Lona, it's up to the software supplier to make sure their product will work on the operating system not the other way round. Windows 8 preview was out for long enough and Norton should have ensured that they were up to speed.

I use Bluguard and that works fine but then again I use Windows Defender on one of my machines and that seems fine as well.   

Still loving Windows 8 and would not like to go back to any other earlier system. I had to trouble shoot for a friends shop computer the other day and they were running XP, it was like going back to the Amiga 1200.   

[pctech]

Windows 7 will remain popular for a long while

[Den]

I'm not knocking Windows 7 at all it was a great system it's just that Windows 8 is even better. But XP was going back a long way and as such is no longer safe. But then again I liked The Amiga 1200 and did not like moving to W95 or 98, time moves on. 

[Niall]

I'm not knocking Windows 7 at all it was a great system it's just that Windows 8 is even better. But XP was going back a long way and as such is no longer safe. But then again I liked The Amiga 1200 and did not like moving to W95 or 98, time moves on. 

Oo you big fibber. Windows 8 looks icky

Not sure if I mentioned it on here before, but recently my dad recently gave me back my old Amiga, modded with a hard drive and an Amiga 1200

[Den]

Try running W8 for a few hours with an open mind, accept that some things are not in the same place but get used to it. Then make the comments after you find how fast it is compared to your older system. It's funny people who swap over to Apple don't complain that everything is in a different place and they get used to it. 

It's human nature not to want change.  But the Amiga 1200 now that was something else and far better than Windows 95 but then along came CHANGE and we had to get used to it. 

[Technical Ben]

But if it's anything like XP/Vista they will backtrack on their decisions.
Like the control panel layout. In nearly all the settings walkthroughs (even from MS) they say "click classic/all items view". Which is IMO an admission the category/messy list is pointless. 

[Lona]

I agree Den, Windows 8 will be a good system once they sort out some of the useless needless frills that are not really necessary unless you like all those fallderalls.

[Den]

I keep playing around with Windows 8 when I have time and keep finding something new to try. Some of the Apps are fantastic and most are free.   

[J!ll]

There's a lot to learn, Den, but I like it. 

[Den]

Thanks Jill, I was starting to feel isolated by the "I don't want to change gang"   

[psp83]

I didn't like Win 8 when I was using the beta..

But I installed the RTM version on the day it went live and not looked back since.

Windows Blue (8.1) that should be out this year should fix issues as well.

[Lona]

I'm very seldom wrong, but I'm right again. . Told you Windows 8 was cr*p.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGF-WtsZOjY

[Den]

Thanks for that Lona, it makes it so clear that I have been wrong about Windows 8 and should have listened to the doubters all along. I think I will remove W8 from all of my computers in the morning and go back to Windows 95 because it was so cool.   

The only thing that was cr*p about that was his biased opinions 

[Simon]

I don't really feel that his opinions were biased - he merely seemed to be suggesting some things that he thinks could be improved.  I honestly still don't think I could take to it.  I need to like the look of the OS I'm working with, and all those blocks and tiles simply aren't aesthetic enough for me.  Were it not for the expense of having to change existing software, in addition to the expense of the products themselves, I'd be seriously considering a Mac of some description for my next desktop computer.

[dlorde]

I've installed Win8 on both desktop and laptop - it's given my old Vaio laptop a new lease of life, as it's faster and less memory hungry than Win7. I can't get on with the new UI (though no doubt it's good with touch screens), so I boot straight to the desktop, using Start8 for a Win7-alike 'Start' menu, and 7 Sidebar to keep the desktop gadgets I'm used to.

For me Win8 with a WIn7 look-alike interface is the best of both worlds. Seems to manage networking better too.

[cavillas]

Windows 8 is definitely faster than windows 7 pro, I like the other things like bit locker etc. as well.  As with any OS it all comes down to personal preferences, likes and dislikes as well as a reluctance to change to something different.  Obviously some will find things seems slower or act differently but I have found that many things that would not work on Windows 7 just run on windows 8.

[pctech]

Try running W8 for a few hours with an open mind, accept that some things are not in the same place but get used to it. Then make the comments after you find how fast it is compared to your older system. It's funny people who swap over to Apple don't complain that everything is in a different place and they get used to it. 

It's human nature not to want change.  But the Amiga 1200 now that was something else and far better than Windows 95 but then along came CHANGE and we had to get used to it. 

I did and I agree with Niall.

Whoever designed that UI was obviously stoned.

[Den]

I am getting used to the new UI and find that I like it for running some of the apps such as Sky news and TV catchup. I don't feel that it is only any good for a touch screen as it works very well with a mouse and does not give me any problems at all.   

[Glenn]

If you have an HP machine and you miss your Start button a solution is a few clicks away http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03557078&cc=ca&dlc=en&lc=en