iTunes 11

Gary · Nov 29, 2012, 18:30:38

iTunes 11 is now on software update

Seems to be working fine, and its fast too and it wasn't slow on Macs anyway. You can get the side bar menu and status bar back if you want but I like the new look tbh.

Steve · Nov 29, 2012, 19:07:20

Thanks Gary.

Bill · Nov 29, 2012, 19:19:31

Hmm... it's certainly changed

I think I prefer it, but I also suspect I'm going to miss the CoverFlow display. Unless I just haven't found it yet?

Steve · Nov 29, 2012, 20:02:37

I can't find it either (coverflow)

Bill · Nov 29, 2012, 20:11:30

If you search for it in the Help it returns:

No help topics were found for 'coverflow'

Steve · Nov 29, 2012, 20:18:09

It's there in the iTunes store view but that's it I think.

Bill · Nov 29, 2012, 21:01:52

I suspect they've biased it much more towards touchscreen devices, where CoverFlow might have been a bit of a liability. Certainly the "Grid" views are much more suited to those. Pity.

Underneath it still seems pretty much like v10 with a few exra options. I see there's now a "Home Video" media type

As usual after a major update, it's going to be mainly a matter of wanting to use an option and then trying to find where they've hidden the blasted thing this time

Gary · Nov 29, 2012, 21:21:27

Quote from: Bill on Nov 29, 2012, 21:01:52
I suspect they've biased it much more towards touchscreen devices, where CoverFlow might have been a bit of a liability.

Coverflow is still available on iPhone and iPad though Bill, I imagine maybe not that many people used it maybe, or they have tried also to unify the 'look' with Lion/Mountain Lion.

Bill · Nov 29, 2012, 22:14:04

There could be any number of reasons, of varying validity. I miss it though, I liked that display. Ah well.

Another minor niggle- the mini-player seems to have lost its volume control!

Edit- I like the "What's Next" facility though, I'll trade the volume control for that.

Gary · Nov 29, 2012, 22:39:17

Digital camera raw update 4.0.2 also released.

Gary · Nov 29, 2012, 22:39:52

Quote from: Bill on Nov 29, 2012, 22:14:04

Edit- I like the "What's Next" facility though, I'll trade the volume control for that.

Niall · Nov 30, 2012, 00:31:42

Finally let me update. Looks very bland $:-\$

pctech · Nov 30, 2012, 07:23:07

I suspect 11.1 will have an all white UI to match the Macs casing.

Gary · Nov 30, 2012, 07:41:12

Quote from: pctech on Nov 30, 2012, 07:23:07
I suspect 11.1 will have an all white UI to match the Macs casing.

White, really? I guess you maybe need a refresher course on Macs built since 2005, as only one is actually white still and thats a Mac mini...

Steve · Nov 30, 2012, 07:46:22

You've got me there Gary, my mini is aluminium, have they changed again?

Gary · Nov 30, 2012, 07:47:33

Quote from: Niall on Nov 30, 2012, 00:31:42
Finally let me update. Looks very bland $:-\$

Thats the point, its simple Niall. If you want to make it look like before just add the bits you want back via the settings.

Gary · Nov 30, 2012, 07:49:01

Quote from: Steve on Nov 30, 2012, 07:46:22
You've got me there Gary, my mini is aluminium, have they changed again?

Nope you are right, they are Aluminium, posting before coffee is a bad move

So thats no Macs with white casings since 2005 then except the Mac Mini in 2010 that had a white top to it...

pctech · Nov 30, 2012, 19:42:09

We have two 27 inch macs in the office and the main case looks pretty darn white to me

Stevescat · Nov 30, 2012, 20:04:07

I'm using a Mac with Mountain Lion.

You know how in previous versions of iTunes you could paste album art into the box at the bottom left corner when an album was selected, well....for ***** sake will someone tell me how to do this in iTunes11? It's driving me nuts!!! I've done the right click on an album in album view, clicked on 'Get Info' and then pasted in the window that opens, but it doesn't work. I'm getting to like the new version but honestly, this is insane.

Steve

Simon · Nov 30, 2012, 20:06:30

Oddly, I had that in a previous version. The artwork didn't appear in the box, but actually did on the iPod.

Steve · Nov 30, 2012, 20:34:41

I've just added artwork 300x300 on ML > Get Info > Double click Artwork> select file

Stevescat · Nov 30, 2012, 20:45:26

Ah ha! Steve, your reply has sorted it. The album I was attempting to add art to, had the 'Lyrics' and 'Artwork' button greyed out (?) I was trying to paste into the artwork box in the 'Summary' window! Duh!

Many thanks,
Steve

Simon · Nov 30, 2012, 22:09:49

Quote from: Gary on Nov 30, 2012, 07:47:33
Thats the point, its simple Niall. If you want to make it look like before just add the bits you want back via the settings.

So, how do you get it like it was before, when you had the list of albums and tracks (not just the grid of covers), with the artwork displayed? At the moment, I'm hating this. The text is too big, and there's not enough on display without clicking and scrolling all over the place.

pctech · Nov 30, 2012, 23:44:34

Installed it this morning before heading out to work and been playing about with it tonight (the Windows version), it's not that bad but aside from a UI refresh I can't see any new features.

Simon · Dec 02, 2012, 21:11:01

Does anyone know how to stop the tutorial popping up each time Windows starts? I suspect there should be a tick box to 'Don't show again', but I can't find it.

Steve · Dec 02, 2012, 21:52:54

Not sure with Windows on the Mac you just close it and that's it gone!.

Simon · Dec 02, 2012, 22:18:24

Yes, I can close it and it's gone, but it comes up again each time I start iTunes.

Steve · Dec 02, 2012, 22:24:01

It's been seen with previous versions with Windows,perhaps a solution will appear in a while, one suggestion was to create a new short cut.

Simon · Dec 02, 2012, 23:18:42

I'm beginning to wish they'd left the damned thing along. I've not found anything yet that's better than the previous version - just different. Seems a change for change's sake to me.

Gary · Dec 03, 2012, 08:24:59

Quote from: Simon on Dec 02, 2012, 23:18:42
I'm beginning to wish they'd left the damned thing along. I've not found anything yet that's better than the previous version - just different. Seems a change for change's sake to me.

Does it use any less ram/cpu than the last version? Windows does have a 64 bit version and I imagine tbh it would behave better on that, if you are still using XP it really is time to upgrade to a 64 bit OS for better performance and maybe compatibility. As to the window did you agree to iTunes looking for Artwork?

Simon · Dec 03, 2012, 09:05:34

I don't recall being asked to, Gary. Yes, still on XP. I'll get around to upgrading one day, but I can't say it's on my list of priorities.

Niall · Dec 03, 2012, 18:18:14

REALLY don't like this new itunes. For some reason it doesn't always show the phone tab so I have to shut it all down, disconnect the phone, close all apple software on the PC and then launch itunes and then connect the phone.

Horrid buggy POS. Never had problems previously, other than navigating around, which is another thing they've made actively stressful. If this sort of thinking keeps up, this will be the final nail in the coffin for me using iphones.

Simon · Dec 03, 2012, 19:28:11

I'm getting more used to it, but it certainly isn't an improvement on iTunes 10. At least the bloody tutorial has gone from mine now.

Simon · Dec 03, 2012, 19:36:30

They've also taken away some of the features I used to use, which is quite annoying, such as the ability to view album covers on the songs list. There is no separation between albums now, which I just find a bit silly. Further, there doesn't seem to be a tick box to have tracks gapless any more. I assume this is because everything is now gapless by default, but it would've been nice to have been left with the choice.

Steve · Dec 05, 2012, 08:19:34

If we want a discussion on Windows 8 or WMP please refer to the appropriate thread Any further discussion in this thread of anything unrelated to iTunes 11 will be removed.

Bill · Dec 14, 2012, 22:30:46

iTunes 11.0.1 available, mainly bug-fixes and reinstating the facility to show duplicates.

No mention of CoverFlow

edit- Drat, I should have read the next page on the updates thread

Bill · Dec 14, 2012, 23:08:51

Quote from: Simon on Dec 03, 2012, 19:28:11
I'm getting more used to it, but it certainly isn't an improvement on iTunes 10.

I don't think I agree.

I would have done at first, but now I'm getting used to the new paradigm I think it's an improvement and I do prefer it. There are one or two things that I miss of course, but nothing serious.

It's more flexible, and some things that I had to use a smart playlist for are now there at the click of a button.

It's certainly good at showing up any shortcomings in the way your library had been organised previously- I've just spent most of the day re-organising things to the way they should have been to start with!

(Much of which was caused by importing CDs and DVDs before I really knew what I was doing, and has been there since I first ran it

)

Simon · Dec 14, 2012, 23:28:10

I have to admit, I've adjusted to it now, and I quite like it, but I miss the album cover view in the Songs list, as there's no separation between albums. I still maintain, though, that there's nothing I've found that's actually any better than iTunes 10.

Bill · Dec 14, 2012, 23:39:24

I still miss CoverFlow

I think the main thing I'd like to see would be the ability to change the size of the album thumbnails in "grid" view. They're obviously a fixed pixel size, not a proportion of the screen size, which means they're a bit big on the MacBook and a touch small for my aging oculars on the iMac...

Gary · Dec 14, 2012, 23:49:29

Quote from: Simon on Dec 14, 2012, 23:28:10
I still maintain, though, that there's nothing I've found that's actually any better than iTunes 10.

Its simpler and faster, that's an improvement to begin with.

Gary · Dec 14, 2012, 23:50:38

Quote from: Bill on Dec 14, 2012, 23:39:24
I still miss CoverFlow

I think the main thing I'd like to see would be the ability to change the size of the album thumbnails in "grid" view. They're obviously a fixed pixel size, not a proportion of the screen size, which means they're a bit big on the MacBook and a touch small for my aging oculars on the iMac...

Coverflow was nice but I never used it, far to many albums to flick though, so searching was always the best way for me.

Bill · Dec 15, 2012, 00:22:09

Quote from: Gary on Dec 14, 2012, 23:50:38
Coverflow was nice but I never used it, far to many albums to flick though, so searching was always the best way for me.

I seldom used it for that, but on playback it was great to run it full-screen so that you see the cover of the album you were playing.

Not so much if you were playing a complete album, but I've got a playlist of a couple of hundred of my favourite tracks that I usually play in random order... and with the 40" TV connected as an external monitor via HDMI it was superb

Gary · Dec 15, 2012, 08:13:23

Quote from: Bill on Dec 15, 2012, 00:22:09
I seldom used it for that, but on playback it was great to run it full-screen so that you see the cover of the album you were playing.

Not so much if you were playing a complete album, but I've got a playlist of a couple of hundred of my favourite tracks that I usually play in random order... and with the 40" TV connected as an external monitor via HDMI it was superb

I keep my TV well away from my computers, the thing does enough on its own as it is

Guess it goes back to Albums, proper artwork you could open up on occasion and look at, I miss vinyl (records people records)

pctech · Dec 15, 2012, 14:12:35

11.0.1 released, I wonder what was broken.

Steve · Feb 19, 2013, 22:32:13

11.0.2 out.

Gary · Feb 19, 2013, 22:39:09

Quote from: Steve on Feb 19, 2013, 22:32:13
11.0.2 out.

Cheers Steve

Bill · Feb 19, 2013, 22:39:56

Cheers Steve

I wonder if they've fixed the bug that stops you using wireless Airplay speakers if you've got IPv6 enabled... only one way to find out!