10.8.3 released

Gary · Mar 14, 2013, 21:45:30

Available on software update, comes with Safari 6.0.3 and weighed in for me at 249mb not much for a 13 beta pint release that took almost 6 months...

Steve · Mar 14, 2013, 21:54:09

pctech · Mar 14, 2013, 22:48:40

What did they call this release? White Lion?

Gary · Mar 14, 2013, 23:05:35

Quote from: pctech on Mar 14, 2013, 22:48:40
What did they call this release? White Lion?

No Mitch. Its Mountain lion update 10.8.3 You know like Windows 7 service pack 1 is Windows 7 service pack 1

Glad to see your knowledge of Apples OS X is still as polished as ever...

Steve · Mar 15, 2013, 06:43:07

Seems to have installed smoothly on my machines.

Gary · Mar 15, 2013, 07:47:37

Quote from: Steve on Mar 15, 2013, 06:43:07
Seems to have installed smoothly on my machines.

Same here, I was surprised at how small the download was for me considering its 13 or so betas but I'm not complaining, its rolling along quite happily I must say. No complaints so far.

Bill · Mar 19, 2013, 09:48:02

Well, the latest security update for Snow Leopard broke something on my system- nearly every morning at ~4am it would crash (with nothing in the log!), a right pita as one app runs 24/7. So yesterday I bit the bullet and upgraded to Mountain Lion. Couple of worrying moments but basically all went well, took about an hour on each machine, not including ~20 minutes download time.

(I see Apple have dealt with the previous issue of the actual installation time only being around half the estimated value- now it's about double

)

Seems nice, generally a "snappier" feel than Snow Leopard, Safari in particular. I also run a temperature monitor: the CPU seems to run a touch cooler than with 10.6.

A few niggles of course- it kept most of my settings, but those it changed were to ones I really didn't like, eg the reversed scrolling direction using the mouse. "Natural" my rear end... and it took me quite a while to realise why, even with the "classic" layout, Mail looked different- no RSS support. It could have at least warned me

Now to find out what all the new bits do

Steve · Mar 19, 2013, 11:38:20

I've got used to the reverse scroll I now get irritated by the opposite!

Bill · Mar 19, 2013, 15:00:23

I'm too old and reactionary to bother getting used to something as irritating as that- I rooted around until I found how to put it back the way God intended

Gary · Mar 19, 2013, 16:43:35

I like the scrolling action as well, I guess using the iPhone and iPad I got used to it, I like Steve find the other way annoying now. It seemed quite natural, but my mother hated it.

Steve · Mar 19, 2013, 19:10:32

I think that's the key Gary, using the phone and the pad you get used to it. I use my wife's laptop trackpad and it drive's me mad.

Gary · Mar 20, 2013, 07:28:59

Quote from: Steve on Mar 19, 2013, 19:10:32
I think that's the key Gary, using the phone and the pad you get used to it. I use my wife's laptop trackpad and it drives me mad.

I think you are definitely right there, Steve. It makes sense if you push something up it goes up, and vice versa, but its not for everyone, I had to change the settings on my mothers mac as it drove her batty.

Glenn · Mar 20, 2013, 07:31:02

Just hope pilots don't use Apples then, they pull back to go up.

Gary · Mar 20, 2013, 08:56:29

Quote from: Glenn on Mar 20, 2013, 07:31:02
Just hope pilots don't use Apples then, they pull back to go up.

I hope so to, after all shouldn't a pilot use a plane?

Steve · Mar 20, 2013, 09:06:30

I'm getting confused now, on the iPad you push up to go down.

Bill · Mar 20, 2013, 09:18:01

Quote from: Gary on Mar 20, 2013, 07:28:59It makes sense if you push something up it goes up, and vice versa

It depends how you look at it... after all, nothing is physically moving when you scroll (either up or down).

What you're doing as you read through (eg) a long piece of text is to move your focus of attention "down". I find it more intuitive to use the mouse to indicate where I want to look, so as I move down through the text I move the mouse "down" and the software does this by moving the text "up". Just as I can click in the scroll bar to indicate the point I want to move to.

The only analogy I can think of is a long physical document in a fixed position (eg pasted to a wall) with a motorised "window" in front of it, controlled by a mouse. As I want to move through the text I want the "window" to move down, so I would move the mouse "down".

That may be the difference between ways of looking at a document in a computer- to me, the document is "fixed" and I'm moving the "window", if you think the "window" is fixed and you move the document then the other way would be more intuitive.

Not sure I've explained that too well, hope you realise what I mean!

Steve · Mar 20, 2013, 09:21:29

I think your right Bill I've got used to looking at a fixed window with a moving document.

Glenn · Mar 20, 2013, 09:25:22

Winding a scroll as you read it, Bill. You attention is base between the 2 rolls, as you read you wind up the paper roll to read down the page..

Bill · Mar 20, 2013, 09:30:52

Quote from: Glenn on Mar 20, 2013, 09:25:22
Winding a scroll as you read it, Bill.

Cetainly that's where the word originally came from, but that doesn't mean it has to be used that way

My visualisation is the opposite to Steve, I've got a fixed document and a moving window.

At least we've got the choice

Bill · Mar 20, 2013, 09:54:09

Just to show that I'm not entirely a grumpy old git, there are a couple of bits related to scrolling that I really like; one is the ability in Safari to scroll "sideways" to earlier pages in the history of that site (not unlike CoverFlow), and the other is the (sort of) "on a rubber band" effect if you try to scroll beyond either end of a document

Gary · Mar 20, 2013, 10:05:18

Quote from: Steve on Mar 20, 2013, 09:06:30
I'm getting confused now, on the iPad you push up to go down.

You push up go up which is down, its like pushing a magazine up. As you push it up the lower half comes into view.